.... rolling Nowegians and Dizzy pix

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

at 1700hrs [just as Wigan score?]

Recorded in front of an audience at the Gateshead International Jazz Festival last week, Alyn Shipton is joined by listeners to introduce their own requests for music ranging from Fats Waller to Abdullah Ibrahim by way of Stacey Kent. Meanwhile Jason Yarde and Andrew McCormack are on hand to play live.

the bbc playlister will mangle the artist listings when the tracks have been played no doubt

i think he model for playlist info is the afternoon concert which gives both the old properly typed list and the bloody list machine mangle performer ludvig van b &c

JLU is bognored again by the opera ....

but H&N is playing some interesting music for the jazbo ear and provides the very model of pre-broadcast information (pbi)...thanks to the team who did this!

Sara Mohr-Pietsch presents music from the Delta Saxophone Quartet, taken from a concert recorded recently at St John's Smith Square in London. The quartet celebrate their 30th anniversary with music by Jimmy Giuffre, Arvo Part, Steve Reich, Terry Riley and Mark-Anthony Turnage.
In the second episode of Hear and Now's Composers' Rooms series, exploring the relationship between workspace and composition, Sara Mohr-Pietsch plays with sharks in the East London studio of electronic composer Kaffe Matthews.
Plus music by Richard Skelton, recorded at the Arts Foundation's recent New Experimentalists event at the Queen Elizabeth Hall.
Arvo Part: Summa
Mark-Anthony Turnage: Run Riot (London premiere)
Terry Riley: Pipes of Medb/Medb's blues (from Chanting the Light of Foresight)
Delta Sax in Free Fall (improvisations inspired by the Jimmy Giuffre Trio release of 1962)
Steve Reich: New York Counterpoint (arr. Susan Fancher)
The Delta Saxophone Quartet:
Christian Forshaw - soprano sax /clarinet
Pete Whyman - alto sax /soprano sax /clarinet
Tim Holmes - tenor sax/clarinet
Chris Caldwell - baritone sax/bass clarinet

Geoffrey does Lucky Thompson; i would listen but i have practically every side this genius cut and the footie is on the telly so i will catch up on the iplayer thingy .... if you do not know about Mr Thompson you should put that right. No info of course .....

Jon3 features Polar Bear in concert at the XOYO earlier this month and a Mr O'dair explores a new electronic world ... fizz and clicks eh ... what larks as mr i used to quote ... 10/10 for effort Jez and the pbi is ace too

Led by drummer Sebastian Rochford, Polar Bear have been central to the
British experimental scene for the past decade, with their unique brand of genre-bending post-jazz. On previous outings their sound has embraced everything from punk to hip hop, however their latest record sees a shift to more intense and expansive territory - with warm electronic flavours seamlessly integrated at the heart of the music. Twisting, long-form compositions come to life through the saxophone melodies of Mark Lockheart and Peter Wareham, whilst electronics whiz Leafcutter John, bassist Tom Herbert and Rochford anchor the sound in hypnotic rhythms.

[Alyn_Shipton]

Calum if you look elsewhere on this board you might find (supplied in advance) at least some of the information you mention as potentially being mangled.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

noted already Alyn and thanks again for your efforts on our behalf

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

"Geoffrey does Lucky Thompson; i
would listen but i have practically
every side this genius cut and the
footie is on the telly so i will catch
up on the iplayer thingy .... if you
do not know about Mr Thompson
you should put that right. No info of
course ....." Lady C.

Good little programme covering LT from Basie to Solal with Oscar and Miles in between. Subtle hip et proud was the Great Lucky. Some really lovely stuff now being uncovered in the Euro radio vaults.


BN.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

caught the last half in bed, quite rescued me from intimations of the great off, or at least a cerebro vascular incident .... you can tell by who played with him eh?

Some really lovely stuff now being uncovered in the Euro radio vaults.

do tell do tell!

[Ian Thumwood]

the music on JRR was brilliant on Saturday and helped me to forget the home defeat to Cardiff - not impressive.

I love Abdullah Ibrahim's music from the 1980's and felt that Ekayah was one of the great bands from that decade. At the time he seemed pretty modern but it seems decidedly mainstream these days. The music is almost perfect and the infectious grooves and Ellington inspired writing was always going to be a winner. It was brilliant to hear this band again.

I also liked the Metheny track and was intrigued t hear the original as I am more familiar with the big band chart by Nob Curnow - a good album that is worth hunting around for. Nice to hear some Ayler on the show too even if it is a bit startling to learn that these tracks are now nearly 50 years old. Sunny Murray's drumming was terrific and the record still managed to retain it's shock value. Listening to this it is interesting to consider the comment I read from one musician (forget who it was) who commented that jazz is more "free" these days that it ever was in the 1960's. Listening to the almost primeval quality in Ayler's music I can see the logic in this and would tend to agree that musicians these days are better equipped from a technical and theoretical knowledge point of view to play more "outside."

I was intrigued by Alyn's comments and Andrew McCormack's enthusiasm for the pianist Tigran. When I first heard him perform live about ten years ago I was staggered by a pianist who could switch from one style to another whether it was Bill Evans, Keith Jarrett or even Jerry Lee Lewis and he did seem your archetypal teenage virtuoso who could wipe the competition away from a technical point of view. I encountered him again a couple of years ago when he was "Artist in residence" at Vienne. He hosted a master-class with his trio having previously given a fascinating solo performance in concert a few nights beforehand. Some American musicians I sat next to at the gig were impressed but there were doubts in my mind as to what he was playing was jazz. The (French) music teachers in the workshop were much less enthusiastic too. The problem for me was that I was entirely put off Tigran's music by the musician himself with the master-class effectively being a platform for him to massage his own very large ego as well as belittle those students he asked to perform. He seemed unnecessarily rude and totally lacked tact. Usually I find listening to pianists to be fascinating and although I no longer play the instrument myself, I've always felt some affinity with jazz pianists who can be amongst the most interesting of jazz musicians. I've met a few pianists who I've really warmed to whether it is Jason Moran or Stanley Cowell who I think it one of the nicest jazz musicians I've met. In contrast I found Tigran to be so dismissive of more orthodox styles of jazz and in love with himself that his personality was a real block to me getting any enjoyment from his music. He seemed in denial about jazz's black heritage and seemed more enthusiastic about Eastern European / Asian influences than the more obvious sources. I'm still not sure about him. Technically he is extremely impressive and his interest in unusual meters marks him out as someone with an original approach. For me there is a nagging doubt as to his relevance as jazz and a later appearance with bassist Lars Danielson was dull to the point of tedium. Not encountered too many jazz musicians I can say I'd taken a dislike to when I had met them (although I found one American pianist to be a bit weird) but I felt that Tigran's personality was a huge stumbling block to my enjoyment of his music. At the same time, I would have to admit that my own tastes have moved away from a lot of the current European stuff which no longer holds the fascination for me and perhaps shames the Tigran philosophy that America is no longer the influence it once was and not should it be - something I find hard to accept and perverse when you consider just how good so much American contemporary jazz is. Tigran reminded me a bit of the Japanese pianist Hiromi who has an incredible technique but whose playing is cold and rather machine-like, almost a photocopy of what jazz is about.

I would love to know S-A's opinion on the JRR track and would suggest that there might be a few others like Bluesnik and Jazzrook who would probably share my reservations.

[Serial_Apologist]

TBH I don't often listen to JRR, Ian - this latest b/cast being no exception. If I make the time, I'll post a reply on here.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

TBH I don't often listen to JRR, Ian - this latest b/cast being no exception. If I make the time, I'll post a reply on here.

Damn! Made me laugh. ...just like Lucky Thompson's. @ "Ronnies" letter to the Melody Maker...1962...."there is no coherence in my rhythm section. They can't even agree amongst themselves"

No wonder him and Stan came to blows!

BN.

"If you are going to play shit - at least play it quietly". -Don Byas. Wonderful putdown.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

well Polar Bear underwhelmed me again .... any one else lend them their lobes?

[eighthobstruction]

well Polar Bear underwhelmed me again .... any one else lend them their lobes?

I'll give it a go later on....

just been enjoying this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG4HlEi_dgc

[Serial_Apologist]

well Polar Bear underwhelmed me again .... any one else lend them their lobes?

I think the decision to foreground its eccentric, previously non-integrated electronic background, has drained it of punch, tightness and coherence, Seb's rhythmic acuity seeming reduced to a mere add-on. The other recorded groups used to illustrate sounded more integrated to me, though the discussion seemed a bit strained in search of justifications.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

ta for the Markus Stockhausen 8thO tickled me tranquillity did that ...

[Quarky]

well Polar Bear underwhelmed me again .... any one else lend them their lobes?

Disappointed and have to agree with you Calum.

I think Polar Bear need to get serious about being serious, if that is where they want to go. Otherwise, they need to go the way of the groups aiming for popularity - is it Robert Glasper (terrible remembering names)?

[eighthobstruction]

Polar Bear....nothing much to write home about....esp after that gushing intro by Jerz....not original, not a good pastiche....

[Serial_Apologist]

Polar Bear....nothing much to write home about....esp after that gushing intro by Jerz....not original, not a good pastiche....

Yah Wobble's Deep Sense, with Evan Parker, Clive Bell, Steve Beresford, Mark Sanders and a bagpipes player called Jean-Pierre Raile, did this sort of thing much more successfully imv about 12 years ago, without the Ambient stuff but anchoring the sorts of free improvisation Polar Bear seem to be attempting in Jan's spongy dub bass figures and Sanders' ability to think up rhythmic patterns similar to those in drum 'n' bass but dissimilar in being constantly undergoing change.