The Bad Plus Rite

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  • Paul Campbell
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 59

    The Bad Plus Rite

    Although I listen to both jazz and "classical" music, I have never been over keen on attempts to fuse the two. Jazz influenced classical music doesn't really appeal to me, and classical pieces turned into jazz - Bach etc (and even Uri Caine's Mahler for that matter) are a complete turn off.

    However... I am completely blown away by The Bad Plus' new disc of the Rite of Spring. Within the usual trio format, plus light use of electronics, they have created a piece that sounds to me remarkably true to the original, at least in terms of energy and shock value, whilst still being, er, jazz. It's a really interesting listen and I'm sure it would go down well live.

    Has anyone else heard it?
  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9173

    #2
    not yet, Mr Paul Campbell, not yet! but i i am now listening to it:

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    • Paul Campbell
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 59

      #3
      Does make for a rather short cd though. I thought they had given us a jazzy 4'33'' at first.

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      • Tom Audustus

        #4
        Originally posted by Paul Campbell View Post
        ... I thought they had given us a jazzy 4'33'' at first.
        Even I can play over the changes for that !!!
        Last edited by Guest; 27-03-14, 09:50.

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37814

          #5
          Interesting as a demonstration of what is possible, I suppose; but for any artistic merit beyond that, nul points, I'm afraid

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #6
            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            Interesting as a demonstration of what is possible, I suppose; but for any artistic merit beyond that, nul points, I'm afraid
            I found it lacking in imagination: it just sounded like an arrangement of Stravinsky's own Piano Duet version with Bass added (and a few vocals) to fill in the missing second pianist, and a basic drum part. Very little of the Musicians' own ideas (hardly surprising, given the sheer feat of imagination that is The Rite) - more a sort of vanity project, the trio wanting (again, understandably enough) to play this astonishing Music, but not giving me anything that isn't already in Stravinsky's originals, and omiting so much.

            I found Uri Craine's Mahler much more fun.
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            • Paul Campbell
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 59

              #7
              Thanks for the comments re the Piano Duet version, Ferney; I don't think I have ever heard it and will seek it out with interest. I think what impressed me about the Bad Plus version is that they seem to me to have captured something of the spirit of the original work and transferred that to a jazz piano trio format. I like it

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #8
                There are a couple of recordings of the 2 piano version on youTube, Paul - one a rather sedate performance by Ashkenazy and Gavrilov, and this by Lennie and Michael Tilson Thomas:

                Stravinsky The Rite of Spring - Bernstein and Tilson Thomas, piano four hands (Live 1981, Alice Tully Hall)
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