Cameron: "Let's export gay marriage!"

[Stillhomewardbound]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10200636/I-want-to-export-gay-marriage-around-the-world-says-David-Cameron.html

Oh, that's tremendous, David. Fantastic! But actually, this is a development that is working according to its own momentum.

It's a rolling stone, basically, and the very best thing that you can do this morning is pick up the phone to one Vladimir Putin and ask him just wtf they're playing at in Russia.

The stone will keep on rolling, so get ahead of it and start button-holing those that would stand in its way.

SMcK

[amateur51]

It appears that Dave is getting a tad over-excited about Britain's role in developing 'gay marriage'. According to wiki, "Same-sex marriage is legal nationwide in thirteen countries: the Netherlands[nb 1], Belgium, Spain, Canada, South Africa, Norway, Sweden,[1] Portugal, Iceland, Argentina, Denmark[nb 2], Brazil[2] and France. It has been signed into law in Uruguay, New Zealand[nb 3] and the United Kingdom[nb 4], but will not come into effect until later in the year, and 2014 for the UK."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_union_legislation

However as lead nation in the commonwealth, Britain does indeed have a unique opportunity in this regard, although a good number of these countries are out of step with Britain and even marching the other way.

However, all power to your influencing elbow, Prime Minister.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

if we export it does that mean it is no longer with us?

can we export the Prime Minister please? Mr Putin has an excellent transit lounge available.

[Flosshilde]

Presumably Dave hasn't noticed that several other countries already have it. Actually Wikipedia isn't quite right in the quote above - in this matter 'the United Kingdom' as a single entity doesn't exist. England (& Wales?) has it, Scotland has published its Bill (which is slightly better in relation to religious bodies than England's Act), & I've no idea what Northern Ireland's position is.

[Beef Oven]

if we export it does that mean it is no longer with us?

Let's hope so!

[MrGongGong]

I've no idea what Northern Ireland's position is.

Missionary ?

[amateur51]

Let's hope so!

I wonder if you'll try it on the Bodrum peninsular

[Flosshilde]

It appears that Dave is getting a tad over-excited about Britain's role in developing 'gay marriage'. According to wiki, "Same-sex marriage is legal nationwide in thirteen countries: ...

There are also several USA states where it's legal -

"As of July 2013, eleven state governments (those of Massachusetts, California, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire, New York, Maine, Maryland, Washington, Delaware), along with the District of Columbia, the Coquille Indian Tribe, the Suquamish tribe, the Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians, the Pokagon Band of Potawatomi Indians, and the Iipay Nation of Santa Ysabel allow same-sex marriage; the states of Rhode Island, and Minnesota will join on August 1, 2013, bringing the total to 30% of the U.S. population." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-se...tes#State_laws)

I'm afraid, BO, that you'll have to accept that it's spreading & here to stay.

[scottycelt]

It appears that Dave is getting a tad over-excited about Britain's role in developing 'gay marriage'. According to wiki, "Same-sex marriage is legal nationwide in thirteen countries: the Netherlands[nb 1], Belgium, Spain, Canada, South Africa, Norway, Sweden,[1] Portugal, Iceland, Argentina, Denmark[nb 2], Brazil[2] and France. It has been signed into law in Uruguay, New Zealand[nb 3] and the United Kingdom[nb 4], but will not come into effect until later in the year, and 2014 for the UK."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_union_legislation

However as lead nation in the commonwealth, Britain does indeed have a unique opportunity in this regard, although a good number of these countries are out of step with Britain and even marching the other way.

However, all power to your influencing elbow, Prime Minister.

My Oh My. Amsey's now marching arm-in-arm with the ultimate 'Tory Toff'. <laugh>

According to Wiki there are 206 sovereign states in the world so that makes exactly 190 (92%) out of step with our Dave in terms of legalising 'same-sex marriage'?

With a record like Dave's I'm not surprised so many politicians in other countries have sensibly decided to 'march the other way'.

Just when we thought Puir Auld Broon had to be the worst PM in recent times ...

[Flosshilde]

With a record like Dave's I'm not surprised so many politicians in other countries have sensibly decided to 'march the other way'.

Or else haven't yet passed legislation - which doesn't mean that they have decided not to.

Still, I'm quite happy for scotty to stay stuck in the mud with the other dinosaurs

(& ams was quite happy for me to post this when I checked with him by PM)

[Beef Oven]

Ok, Cameron wants to export homosexual marriage to the world.

Let's help him.

First we get out of the EU.

Second we set up trade agreements with China, Russia, African States and the Commonwealth.

Third, we have a global free-market wed-fest.

Easy innit!?

[MrGongGong]

Ok, Cameron wants to export homosexual marriage to the world.

Let's help him.

First we get out of the EU.

Second we set up trade agreements with China, Russia, African States and the Commonwealth.

Third, we have a global free-market wed-fest.

Easy innit!?

nope

[Beef Oven]

nope

Ok, maybe I over-simplify. But you do agree with me in principle, Doncha?

I mean, you wouldn't want to limit our export of homosexual marriage to the EU, wudjah?

[Stillhomewardbound]

I don't mind Cameron being a self-serving politician. There hardly seems to be any other sort these days, but if he wants to slime about the place on the LGBT coat tails, he has to do some grafting for it, and that involves getting down and real with the n'eer sayers such as Russia who are basically, and quite blantantly, endorsing shocking levels of thuggery against its gay citizens.

This is not some sharia law quarter we're talking about, or the darkest corners of Africa. We are discussing a nation that takes its place at the table of world leadership under the guise of being a civilized people.

UK politicians cannot prance about with a rainbow flag only when it suits them to do so. If they wish to wave the flag at any time they must mean it.

[scottycelt]

I don't mind Cameron being a self-serving politician. There hardly seems to be any other sort these days, but if he wants to slime about the place on the LGBT coat tails, he has to do some grafting for it, and that involves getting down and real with the n'eer sayers such as Russia who are basically, and quite blantantly, endorsing shocking levels of thuggery against its gay citizens.

This is not some sharia law quarter we're talking about, or the darkest corners of Africa. We are discussing a nation that takes its place at the table of world leadership under the guise of being a civilized people.

UK politicians cannot prance about with a rainbow flag only when it suits them to do so. If they wish to wave the flag at any time they must mean it.

No civilised person would condone thuggery whether it be directed against homosexuals, heterosexuals, in-betweenies, black people, brown people, yellow people, white people, catholics, protestants, jews, moslems, hindus, buddhists, atheists, agnostics ... well, anybody really.

The trouble with the 'same-sex marriage' issue is that it has become heavily politicised. Those who favour it are generally considered to be 'cool and modern' and socially-liberal and those opposed are mostly of a conservative disposition and frequently labelled as 'dinosaurs' and 'bigots'. Many of the latter, however, are simply opposed on moral grounds which have nothing to do with politics.

Whilst there may have been no recorded violence directed against those opposed in the UK there have been well-documented cases of threats, bullying and people losing their jobs because of their personal beliefs and principles on the issue.

Not my idea of a truly civilised, free society either ....