Are women still 'given away' in the church marriage service? My mother was ranting about that to me sixty-odd years ago - although she had gone along with it with gritted teeth. I didn't when I married - and as for promising to obey......!
Cameron: "Let's export gay marriage!"
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scottycelt
Originally posted by Arcades Project View PostWhat are you talking about? What "feminist harangue" (& my God you hate women don't you?)
My problem (pace, ahinton) is with feminists. I find them appallingly sexist, uncouth and distinctly unattractive. I suspect I am not alone.
Feminists should never be equated with women. The two, in my experience, are quite different.
Women live in the world that exists and accept the reality of men. Feminists refuse to accept that reality and dream of a make-believe world where men don't exist.
I much prefer women.
Don't you?
[Ed: I hope this is just over the top hyperbole in the heat of the moment. I would invite the member to moderate his language. The OED definition of feminist is: "An advocate or supporter of the rights and equality of women."]Last edited by french frank; 28-07-13, 19:06.
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KipperKid
Originally posted by scottycelt View PostNo. as usual, you are quite wrong ... I am in utter awe of women, and having been brought up with four sisters, always have been.
My problem (pace, ahinton) is with feminists. I find them appallingly sexist, uncouth and distinctly unattractive. I suspect I am not alone.
Feminists should never be equated with women. The two, in my experience, are quite different.
Women live in the world that exists and accept the reality of men. Feminists refuse to accept that reality and dream of a make-believe world where men don't exist.
I much prefer women.
Don't you?
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Originally posted by scottycelt View PostMy problem (pace, ahinton) is with feminists. I find them appallingly sexist, uncouth and distinctly unattractive.
No-one is interested in what you think of feminists. What they would like to know is what you found in Arcades Project's measured, factual account (#233) that caused you to dub it a feminist harangue.
Well?
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I have added the following edit, to the post above:
"[Ed: I hope this is just over the top hyperbole in the heat of the moment. I would invite the member to moderate his language. The OED definition of feminist is: "An advocate or supporter of the rights and equality of women."]It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by scottycelt View PostNo. as usual, you are quite wrong ... I am in utter awe of women, and having been brought up with four sisters, always have been.
My problem (pace, ahinton) is with feminists. I find them appallingly sexist, uncouth and distinctly unattractive. I suspect I am not alone.
Feminists should never be equated with women. The two, in my experience, are quite different.
Women live in the world that exists and accept the reality of men. Feminists refuse to accept that reality and dream of a make-believe world where men don't exist.
I much prefer women.
Don't you?
[Ed: I hope this is just over the top hyperbole in the heat of the moment. I would invite the member to moderate his language. The OED definition of feminist is: "An advocate or supporter of the rights and equality of women."]
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Originally posted by scottyceltNowhere did Arcades Project's 'measured, factual account' <smiley> actually address the only point that I've been making all along, but which was studiously ignored as ever, ie that marriage hitherto has only been the union of, wait for it ... A MAN AND A WOMAN!
Originally posted by scottyceltThe terms and conditions of this union, however deplorable, are wholly irrelevant to the definition of the union itself.
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scottycelt
Originally posted by french frank View PostI have added the following edit, to the post above:
"[Ed: I hope this is just over the top hyperbole in the heat of the moment. I would invite the member to moderate his language. The OED definition of feminist is: "An advocate or supporter of the rights and equality of women."]
This has now got totally absurd.
I'll now leave you to it!
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If this thread is removed to Diversions, it will be the last one allowed on this subject unless there is a genuine new story. This is intemperate and giving offence.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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KipperKid
Originally posted by scottycelt View PostSince when were you and others here particularly interested in strict dictionary definitions? God, give me strength!
This has now got totally absurd.
I'll now leave you to it!
Posts #208 and #232 by ff and Pilamenon respectively, can be referred to as capturing the essence of the whole discussion, for those that care.
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Arcades Project
scottycely consistently misrepresents - no lies about - my carefully argued & constructed posts concerning major law changes to do with the structural basis of marriage in the C19. He backs this up with a repulsive diatribe against feminists & feminism.
&, of course, he's encouraged by you.
I've completely wasted my time here. I know what I'd like to say, but I've too much respect for ff to say it on a public message board. Though I've no doubt ff will hide this post, scottycelt's having stood.
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Simon
Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostWelcome to la-la land, please drive carefully.
We're aware that you have little time for anyone who doesn't hold the same views as yourself, but the member in question is usually very courteous and I can't recall him being so offensive to you. I haven't made an official complaint, as I think it's important that these posts remain.
(If it were me, you'd have more excuse and I wouldn't mind in the slightest, as I have never sought to hide what I think of both yourself and your "music".)
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