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  • EdgeleyRob
    Guest
    • Nov 2010
    • 12180

    Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
    Sara tweets re Sony RAA:

    ‏@SaraMohrPietsch 1h Delighted and deeply proud of the whole team for our Breakfast Show of the Year nomination*


    That's spoiled your day.


    What's the competition like ?

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    • Hautboiste

      Back in the 1970s I applied for a job as music librarian with a now defunct local authority. My final papers at college were in written and assessed music librarianship and practical cataloguing and classification in music amongst other things. On top of that I'd worked for 2 years prior to college for an urban district council where I'd been everything from tea girl to chief librarian. There was one other candidate for the post who knew everyone and her father-in-law was on the interviewing panel! Guess which one of us got the job.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30254

        Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
        Sara tweets re Sony RAA:

        ‏@SaraMohrPietsch 1h Delighted and deeply proud of the whole team for our Breakfast Show of the Year nomination*


        That's spoiled your day.
        I've tried to work out who does the nominating. The BBC, certainly, and I suspect Radio 3 offers the suggestion to BBC Radio people.

        Do you enjoy the Breakfast Show, Zucchini?
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Suffolkcoastal
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3290

          Looking at the previous nominations and winners of the under 10 million listener category, Breakfast would fit in well with its Radio 2.4/cheesy local radio breakfast show manner. There are a number of awards I would like to nominate Breakfast for, but they would not be repeatable here.

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          • Zucchini
            Guest
            • Nov 2010
            • 917

            Suffolkcoastal: R3 is a national station and in the 10 million plus category

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30254

              Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
              Suffolkcoastal: R3 is a national station and in the 10 million plus category
              The Breakfast nominations are:

              Breakfast – BBC Radio 3

              Chris Evans – BBC Radio 2

              The Christian O'Connell Breakfast Show – Absolute Radio

              KISS Breakfast with Rickie, Melvin & Charlie – KISS

              Today Programme – BBC News for BBC Radio 4

              Plus:

              Best music programme

              The Dermot O'Leary Show – Ora Et Labora for BBC Radio 2

              Jarvis Cocker's Sunday Service – BBC 6 Music

              Lauren Laverne – BBC 6 Music

              The Ronnie Wood Show – Somethin' Else for Absolute Radio & Absolute Classic Rock

              Zane Lowe – BBC Radio 1

              Music radio personality of the year

              Charlie Sloth – BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra

              Christian O'Connell – Absolute Radio

              John Suchet – Classic FM

              Ken Bruce – BBC Radio 2

              Lauren Laverne – BBC 6 Music

              Music radio broadcaster of the year

              Cerys on 6 – BBC 6 Music

              Jamie Cullum – Folded Wing for BBC Radio 2

              Johnnie Walker – Wise Buddah Creative for BBC Radio 2

              Mark Radcliffe & Stuart Maconie – Smooth Operations for BBC 6 Music

              Suzy Klein – BBC Radio 3 & BBC Radio 4

              UK station of the Year

              BBC Asian Network

              BBC Radio 5 live

              Classic FM

              Radio 3 also has a nomination for the best feature or documentary:

              Belongings – TBI Media for BBC Radio 3
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25200

                Going to be edge of the seat stuff.....
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  So, not The Early Music Show; not The Essay; not Hear & Now; not Jazz Line-Up; not Late Junction or World Routes - not any of the programmes of which R3 might reasonably be proud, but the crappiest thing by far on any radio station?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Suffolkcoastal
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3290

                    and COTW which is always at least professional. Exactly, shows what the Dear Leader and his Politburo are now most proud of, namely just about the most awful programme that has ever come out of R3 and a total embarrassment. Since when has R3 had more than 10 million listeners?

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                    • EdgeleyRob
                      Guest
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12180

                      Wot no Alan Brazil sports breakfast ?.

                      Wonder if Paddy Power have opened a book ?

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30254

                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        So, not The Early Music Show; not The Essay; not Hear & Now; not Jazz Line-Up; not Late Junction or World Routes - not any of the programmes of which R3 might reasonably be proud, but the crappiest thing by far on any radio station?
                        The reason it hasn't 'spoiled my day', as I believe Zucchini had it, is that I have always held that the characteristics which the Sony Radio Academy Awards value are not those that Radio 3 should embrace.

                        It's about newsworthiness (getting news coverage), popularity (getting big audiences or increasing your audience).

                        I posted some of the other categories so that you can see what they don't value - by not nominating them.

                        So, I'm quite pleased to see the Breakfast Show nominated. In puts it in a certain category. I seem to remember the year R3 won "UK Station of the Year" they were up against talkSport ...

                        If you see who makes up the jury you realise that few if any will ever listen to Radio 3 or appreciate what it does well.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Black Swan

                          I totally agree Suffolkcostal.

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                          • Northender

                            What makes Radio 3 different from its rivals is that - unfortunately - it doesn't seem to know what its essential role is, with the result that has ended up falling between any number of proverbial stools. Even when it deigns to broadcast complete works, these are often combined in a very messy fashion (the afternoon concerts on Tuesday - which also featured La Gazza Ladra- and Friday are cases in point). Much as I admire Brahms's 4th and the Rach 2, I like a decent interval between them, rather than hearing them in rapid succession. Classic FM, however much some people like to mock it- is a popular music station that happens to play a lot of 'classical' stuff'. Like it or not - and you don't HAVE to listen any more than you HAVE to listen to Radio 3 - CFM seems to know where it's going and how to get there. (ELGAR alert - SM-P has trailed the item after next - Pomp & Circumstance No. 1 - presumably afraid that the unfamiliar piece for cello and piaon that's now playing will scare us off.)

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26524

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              I'm quite pleased to see the Breakfast Show nominated. In puts it in a certain category.
                              That was my first thought - it's puts a seal on the accuracy of what's said here about what's happened to the "show"


                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              Do you enjoy the Breakfast Show, Zucchini?
                              .

                              .

                              Der Troll schweigt....
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                                and COTW which is always at least professional.
                                - I thought I'd included that, but ... I won't edit it now, or it'll make your comment seem odd!

                                Originally posted by french frank
                                The reason it hasn't 'spoiled my day', as I believe Zucchini had it, is that I have always held that the characteristics which the Sony Radio Academy Awards value are not those that Radio 3 should embrace.

                                It's about newsworthiness (getting news coverage), popularity (getting big audiences or increasing your audience).

                                I posted some of the other categories so that you can see what they don't value - by not nominating them.

                                So, I'm quite pleased to see the Breakfast Show nominated. In puts it in a certain category. I seem to remember the year R3 won "UK Station of the Year" they were up against talkSport ...

                                If you see who makes up the jury you realise that few if any will ever listen to Radio 3 or appreciate what it does well.
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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