The Eternal Breakfast Debate in a New Place

[mercia]

was it cut quite abruptly when the caller informed us that he was "stoned".

ah! I didn't hear him say that but he certainly didn't sound awake

his contribution was meant as one of Petroc's "winter warmers" - pieces to get one going on a cold day

[Bax-of-Delights]

his contribution was meant as one of Petroc's "winter warmers" - pieces to get one going on a cold day

"winter warmers" - CFM bitespeak.

[mercia]

is it only the weekend breakfast that comes from Salford, does anyone know ?

the reason I ask, I notice that PT, who presented this morning's programme, is also presenting the Wigmore Hall recital this evening
so does he then have to go back to Salford for the morning ?

[Old Grumpy]

ah! I didn't hear him say that but he certainly didn't sound awake

his contribution was meant as one of Petroc's "winter warmers" - pieces to get one going on a cold day

Not sure he said he was stoned - but he was certainly somewhat incoherent!

Listening again - I think he says "quietly stung to get the morning action through" - he certainly needed to be cut off though!


OG

[JFLL]

... I notice that PT, who presented this morning's programme, is also presenting the Wigmore Hall recital this evening
...

And murdering the German language as usual. Mahler apparently wrote a song called 'Nick Wiedersehen', which sent me to Wikipedia to look up Nicholas (or perhaps Nikolaus Freiherr von) Wiedersehen, with no result.

Edit: You might presume that people in the 'music industry' (ugh) might have a good ear, wouldn't you?

[Nick Armstrong]

Rotten selection this morning. I've switched on three times in the hope of something nice and switched off almost immediately at something really annoying. Thank heavens for the SD card in the radio - now listening to Brahms' 3rd piano quartet from TTN a couple of days ago Heavenly stuff

[antongould]

Rotten selection this morning. I've switched on three times in the hope of something nice and switched off almost immediately at something really annoying. Thank heavens for the SD card in the radio - now listening to Brahms' 3rd piano quartet from TTN a couple of days ago Heavenly stuff

far,far from good M'Lud

[cloughie]

far,far from good M'Lud

Young cellist playing Britten on Breakfast TV - after previous criticisms of their classical output I have to applaud them in not dumbing down, well not too much - they did have Adam Ant on the programme - not playing Britten!

[french frank]

Edit: You might presume that people in the 'music industry' (ugh) might have a good ear, wouldn't you?

And performers usually do - they manage to pick up several languages when abroad, and singers can be very good , but others have no ear at all, and even when they do know a language reasonably well, they over egg the 'foreign accent' when including it within an English sentence.

In fact, you don't have to be fluent: there are just some absolute basics (like getting the stress in the right place) which would be easy - it's just ignorance, not linguistic (in)ability to get that wrong - and the fact that, say, ch has several different sounds depending on the language. A short training course or a test should be obligatory (ha! ) for R3 presenters.

But it is strange that people who have a finely tuned (?) ear for musical sounds are so hopeless at catching the varying sound systems of other languages. But I suppose that isn't limited to R3 presenters... Hearing isn't the same as reproducing.

Sorry to go on about this , but as a student in Paris, I had a really short course on French phonetics that was invaluable, ear opening - it doesn't involve a lifetime's study. If only R3 gave such courses.

[Serial_Apologist]

Adam Ant

Looks old, doesn't he? - like all that Punk/New Romantics generation. Too much you-know-what, I reckon, to be sniffy about it... and not being raised on post-WW2 rations like we were...

[kernelbogey]

And murdering the German language as usual. Mahler apparently wrote a song called 'Nick Wiedersehen', which sent me to Wikipedia to look up Nicholas (or perhaps Nikolaus Freiherr von) Wiedersehen, with no result.

Edit: You might presume that people in the 'music industry' (ugh) might have a good ear, wouldn't you?

Petroc grew up, I believe, in Cornwall, where English is a foreign language, which he was obviously sent off to learn at a good English school .

Despite several visits to Wien to front the Neujahrskonzert, he daily commits Deutscheprachemord.

O du lieber Augstin! Alles ist hin!!

[Resurrection Man]

Rob Cowan this morning "Do you have any memories of this? I'd love to hear from you'.

[Suffolkcoastal]

That must have been on this morning's 'Unessential Classics'. I see Rob continues his fixation with Slavonic Dances (programmes fronted by him seem to account for a fair portion of Slavonic Dances played). Two more this morning, at this rate last year's record of 93 will be broken!

[Black Swan]

This is why the sound of RC's voice sends me looking for the remote and the off button.


J

[Hautboiste]

Did I really hear PT introduce the Radetzky March as a waltz this morning?