Just as I thought it couldn't get any worse, I have just heard Petroc Trelawny telling us what is coming up in this morning's programme - as he mentions each piece, a five second clip of the "best known bit" is played under his voice, as if to tempt you. Ye gods!
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I thought what I heard of Martin Handley on Saturday suggested the weekend programmes may have been spared the worst of this awful makeover. I too just heard the clips referred to by MickyD - a further slide downhill. Off it goes.Comment
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I'm getting more and more convinced that these gimmicks - which are well-known to be irritants to classical music listeners - are designed to get rid of us.Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
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It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Sorry, I am being lazy but would you mind reposting R3’s remit? I’d like to refer to it (just the point) rather than trying to formulate the purpose of the station in my own words. Then I’ll just say, this is clearly not what you are doing, or something to the effect.Comment
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For what it's worth, I've just sent my feelings to the Feedback site. As frenchfrank says, you have to be concise as they only allow you to post 1000 characters on the message.Comment
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My weekday breafast on 3 listening is confined to my "drive time" 7:30 - 8:00 so I thought I had missed the worst of the changes until I heard the kind of trail MickyD's referring to. Spoken trails I can just about cope with but trails with bleeding segued gobbits of the music underneath is too much to stomach - instant turn off. The positive side is that it will encourage me to get to work that little bit earlier.Originally posted by MickyD View PostComment
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dsOriginally posted by doversoul View Post
I'm afraid the remit is so wide and bland it can mean anything at all. I'm sure the Trust is smugly satisfied that R3 is fulfilling its purpose. But here it is:
"The remit of Radio 3 is to offer a mix of music and cultural programming in order to engage and entertain its audience. Around its core proposition of classical music, its speech-based programming should inform and educate the audience about music and culture. Jazz, world music, drama, the arts and ideas and religious programming should feature in its output.
The service should appeal to listeners of any age seeking to expand their cultural horizons through engagement with the world of music and the arts."It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Thanks!! This is the bit I had in mind (and not the whole thing).Comment
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Yes, that 'coming up in the next half hour' thing is a bit naff isn't it? A bit like something off daytime telly.
I suppose gimmicks are just gimmicks (phone-ins, celebs etc.) and can eventually be dropped if they don't work.Comment
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Indeed they can, MarkG, but these days, once there, I find they also have a horrible tendency to stay.Originally posted by MarkG View PostComment
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Yes. I'm listening. Indian wine references and all. Perhaps it's because Tuesday is chart day but it does sound an awful lot more commercial than on the first day of the changes.
I should have liked him to have referred to the "chart" rather than the "charts". Additionally, the reference to Number 2 being a "non-mover" was Alan Freeman. He could have said something like it "hasn't moved this week".
What I am suggesting here is that the execs could have softened it. Genuinely. Instead they have gone for it hook, line and sinker. The cliches were delivered without flinching.
My main irritation is the way in which the news invades in one way or another at least every 15 minutes. This, I know, was happening before. But is there nowhere on radio where you can get away from Silvio Berlusconi?Comment
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I suppose gimmicks are just gimmicks (phone-ins, celebs etc.) and can eventually be dropped if they don't work.This is all part of making new listeners feel 'welcome' and 'included'. It's really no different from their old station except that the music's a bit different.Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
I knew Breakfast reminded me of something - "When we were very young", following the BBC and Petroc on Twitter:
"Who comes tripping round the corner of the street?
One pair of shoes which are Nurse's;
One pair of shoes which are Percy's...
Tweet! Tweet! Tweet!"It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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I expect PT was just naive in reading tweets about individual wine labels (advertising?) but now we know - as if we need to - that he considers £8+ an expensive bottle of wine.
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Conversely James Martin on Saturday Kitchen always seems to think anything under £8 to be a bargain.Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostI expect PT was just naive in reading tweets about individual wine labels (advertising?) but now we know - as if we need to - that he considers £8+ an expensive bottle of wine.Comment
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