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  • Thropplenoggin
    Full Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 1587

    The buffoons on Breakfast are no longer merely content to scrape the bottom of the barrel and serve it up to the weary listener, they now insist on having some sort of meta-trailer, trailing the programme in media res with 'Coming up...'.

    Thropplenoggin wept!

    'Damn them, damn them all to hell!'
    It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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    • mercia
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8920

      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
      Thropplenoggin wept!

      'Damn them, damn them all to hell!'
      you probably knew you weren't going to enjoy the programme even before you switched on
      do you have masochistic tendencies ?

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      • Thropplenoggin
        Full Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 1587

        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        you knew you weren't going to enjoy the programme even before you switched on
        do you have masochistic tendencies ?


        No pain, no gain?
        It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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        • mercia
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8920

          Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
          No pain, no gain?
          fair enough
          so what have you gained ?

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          • Thropplenoggin
            Full Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 1587

            Originally posted by mercia View Post
            fair enough
            so what have you gained ?
            Knowledge. And knowledge is power. I now know that they trail their own programme during the programme. With 'Coming up', they have crossed the Rubicon. I shall henceforth snub the programme on a quotidian basis.
            It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26524

              Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
              I shall henceforth snub the programme on a quotidian basis.

              Good phrase that

              Doesn't it mean you have to inform them each day that you are doing so? Is a 'snub' a 'snub' if the 'snubbee' doesn't know about it?


              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30254

                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                you probably knew you weren't going to enjoy the programme even before you switched on
                do you have masochistic tendencies ?
                When you're told 'Since you don't listen, you have no right to express an opinion', you listen (as Throppers has said) from time to time to validate your view.

                It allows you to turn and fight rather than leave the field to the triumphant opposition. Them or us? But when nothing changes, there's no further need to listen.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • mercia
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8920

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  'Since you don't listen, you have no right to express an opinion'
                  I don't recall ever having said that to thropplenoggin, though I admit to having occasional lapses of memory

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                  • Thropplenoggin
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1587

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    When you're told 'Since you don't listen, you have no right to express an opinion', you listen (as Throppers has said) from time to time to validate your view.

                    It allows you to turn and fight rather than leave the field to the triumphant opposition. Them or us? But when nothing changes, there's no further need to listen.
                    It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                    • Thropplenoggin
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1587

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                      Good phrase that

                      Doesn't it mean you have to inform them each day that you are doing so? Is a 'snub' a 'snub' if the 'snubbee' doesn't know about it?


                      I have taken it as tacit that SMP et al are glued to this thread. Perhaps they see it as a provocation, and adjust the playlist and presentation accordingly, upping the waltzes and rodeo music, Tweet count and trailers.
                      It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        I decided several years ago that I didn't like BBCTV's Eastenders

                        I must say it wouldn't occur to me to occasionally watch it to make sure I still didn't like it

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30254

                          Originally posted by mercia View Post
                          I decided several years ago that I didn't like BBCTV's Eastenders

                          I must say it wouldn't occur to me to occasionally watch it to make sure I still didn't like it
                          But EastEnders is what you expect to see on BBC One (?) - it's what BBC One (?) is for. It's on twice a week (?) for half an hour (?), not at peak viewing time. Easier to decide not to bother. But Breakfast is on (I generouslyy exclude weekends) five mornings a week, for two and a half hours, at peak listening time for radio, and it's targeted at people who don't listen because they think Radio 3 is 'too daunting' but might be tempted to listen if it's made more suitable for under tens. And then there's Essential Classics, three hours every weekday morning, aimed at retaining that same Breakfast audience as far as possible and pulling Radio 4 listeners over to Radio 3 at 9am rather than letting them be tempted over to Classic FM.

                          Five and a half hours of peak listening devoted to other people isn't the same as the small amount of EastEnders. Which is why there are complaints from those excluded from Radio 3's morning programmes because they are just not good enough.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26524

                            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                            waltzes and rodeo music, Tweet count and trailers
                            Says it all, Throppers, says it all
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • mercia
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8920

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              might be tempted to listen if it's made more suitable for under tens
                              that's rather insulting to all the adults who currently enjoy the Breakfast programme, isn't it ?

                              I shall now consider myself "excluded" from BBC One because Eastenders (+ The Now Show + Holby City etc. etc.) are "just not good enough"
                              .............. or is it simply that I don't happen to like them, while apparently millions do

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                              • arancie33
                                Full Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 137

                                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                                that's fairly insulting to all the adults who currently enjoy the Breakfast programme, isn't it ?
                                You mean there are some?

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