Margaret Thatcher dies

[Serial_Apologist]

Can anyone explain, I wonder, why Thatcher is to have some special kind of funeral? I genuinely can't see why she should be treated any differently from any other PM, and I'm pretty sure they mostly just have fairly ordinary funerals. I suppose it might be because she was the first woman PM - not really a very good reason, but somehow I don't think it's that.

I haven't read all of this thread, so apologies if anyone has brought this up already.



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It's been mentioned but so far not commented on, Mary.

My own view is this will be a celebration of the rich, by the rich and for the rich, for Thatcher's bringing back the full-blown Adam Smith-type liberal free market economics that have made them lots and lots of lucre wherever and whenever they wanted, regardless of unsustainability and the ever-widening gap between themselves and everyone else. And that's even before we get onto the cost to the taxpayer of such a state funeral - why, after all, should they care when the consequent sacrifices will be passed down the line, as usual? .

I hope it's being planned to give her a really big send-off!

[Beef Oven]

I'm going to have to distract you with some obscure electronica again , aren't I ?

It's a deal!!!!

It works for me.

[eighthobstruction]

Eh? We were at war with them in 1953, and looking at their history since your suggestion is most unlikely. GG you are out of your depth, you don't know history and you don't know war.

Blessed are the literal....for they shall inherit the wrong end of the stick ....

[John Wright]

Can anyone explain, I wonder, why Thatcher is to have some special kind of funeral?

Well, former PM Sir Winston Churchill had a very special funeral, one my early memories. I'm sure others did. It's someone else's decision Mary, not yours :o

[John Wright]

Blessed are the literal....for they shall inherit the wrong end of the stick ....

Na, I was just poking GG with it :o

[EdgeleyRob]

I've merged the two threads since the wrangling is being carried out on both.

Is it still ok for me and 8o to party on this merged one ?

[amateur51]

If you read again what I said, being outside an exclusion zone does not guarantee the aggressor any 'protection'. Being inside an exclusion zone the aggressor has a certainty of attack, it's a deterrent. Outside the zone you may or may not be attacked.

I know the Belgrano was moving west when it was hit, but in war you can be attacked when retreating.

And if the exclusion zone had recently been increased in size? It really does seem to be very convenient for Thatcher's government.

Thatcher herself did not use your argument in her wrangle (ff's word ) with Diana Gould. She used the 'Belgrano was a danger to our ships even when moving away' argument, which is pretty hard to swallow.

[french frank]

Is it still ok for me and 8o to party on this merged one ?

Of course, people can party if they wish . But it may end up as a party in the basement. With apologies/regrets to those who have contributed thoughtful posts. The basement doesn't mean that the 'partying' can't go on for as long as people want

[amateur51]

I've merged the two threads since the wrangling is being carried out on both.

You have retained the RIP bit of the title, something with which I not wish to be associated but which I am forced to endorse apparently by your action, ff - inadvertently I'm sure.

Could this be remedied please?

Edit: I'd be quite happy with 'Baroness Thatcher Is Dead' as a title

[MrGongGong]

It's a deal!!!!

It works for me.

Blimey
it's like going on holiday with a confused elderly relative
("here you are, just sit down here with this La Monte Young Cd while I go and get us an ice cream, and don't wander off !")

[Beef Oven]

Blimey
it's like going on holiday with a confused elderly relative
("here you are, just sit down here with this La Monte Young Cd while I go and get us an ice cream, and don't wander off !")

No robbery in a fair exchange

[Barbirollians]

Strikingly Baroness Thatcher always would not allow the Treasury to attack child benefit ! Says a lot about this current shower. I suspect she would never have countenanced the attacks on the rule of law either .

[Mary Chambers]

Well, former PM Sir Winston Churchill had a very special funeral, one my early memories. I'm sure others did. It's someone else's decision Mary, not yours :o

I have already realised it's not my decision, John.

Who decides? The government, I suppose. Public money should not be used for this. There will have to be enormous security.

I remember Churchill's funeral all too well. I was in my first job in a city where I knew nobody, and Churchill's death took over the radio for at least two weeks. I was furious. This funeral is going to be the same, and I'm furious this time, too.

[EdgeleyRob]

You have retained the RIP bit of the title, something with which I not wish to be associated but which I am forced to endorse apparently by your action, ff - inadvertently I'm sure.

Could this be remedied please?

Edit: I'd be quite happy with 'Baroness Thatcher Is Dead' as a title

Rust in peace is better.

[french frank]

You have retained the RIP bit of the title, something with which I not wish to be associated but which I am forced to endorse apparently by your action, ff - inadvertently I'm sure.

Could this be remedied please?

It wasn't inadvertent. Your first post retains your own title. The House Rules also say - since you have yourself quoted them - "please do not start topics or post messages which are designed to be provocative". You must know that some members - albeit a small minority - would find that title provocative.

I know that feelings run very high on this topic, but something more analytical (and critical, it goes without saying) would be welcome.