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  • Julien Sorel

    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
    Thankyou, BBM, for your appropriate and respectful words on the death of this great Prime Minister, in contrast to the horrible gloating over on AM51's thread. Lady Thatcher has only been dead a few hours and yet the usual suspects are practically dancing on her grave. What a sad indictment on some contributors to these boards.

    RIP indeed.
    Mr Pee. You had no qualms about posting a link to an article luridly attacking the recently deceased President of Venezuela Hugo Chavez.

    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
    At least Chavez did a huge amount for the poor of Venezuala, and won several elections that were recognised as being properly conducted - ie not sham, one-person affairs.
    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
    What's the difference? Why is it OK to 'speak ill' of Chavez but not of Thatcher? (I have no problem with people 'speaking ill' of either. They were public figures. There's a public response to their deaths. Why must Thatcher be untouchable, whereas it's OK to say anything about Chavez?)

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    • eighthobstruction
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 6432

      It is my opinion, that the NATION showed guts WW1, WW2....ref Falklands : 0.001% of population were made to have guts because they were sent to Falklands UNDER ORDERS....the other 99+% showed Jingoism, Xeniphobia....Apathy....Derision ....probably in equal parts....Don't get all Jeremy Paxman on us JW, it will not wash....
      bong ching

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      • John Wright
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 705

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        wrong question
        Good grief GG, even Tony Blair never told an interviewer 'that is the wrong question'

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        I don't think that a "nation" can have "guts" in the way you describe ..........

        (and 6926.0 miles is not really "so many thousands of miles" is it ? It's just less than 7 )
        And I now see it's a waste of time even acknowledging your presence on this forum
        - - -

        John W

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        • Mr Pee
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3285

          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
          House Rules

          "Please treat other members respectfully, even/especially if you disagree with what they are saying;"
          Oh my. That's rich, coming from you of all people.
          Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

          Mark Twain.

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          • MrGongGong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
            It is my opinion, that the NATION showed guts WW1, WW2....ref Falklands : 0.001% of population were made to have guts because they were sent to Falklands UNDER ORDERS....the other 99+% showed Jingoism, Xeniphobia....Apathy....Derision ....probably in equal parts....Don't get all Jeremy Paxman on us JW, it will not wash....
            Quite

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            • eighthobstruction
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6432

              Originally posted by John Wright View Post
              Good grief GG, even Tony Blair never told an interviewer 'that is the wrong question'


              ....I think that is exactly the sort of thing TB and 99% of politicans would say....




              And I now see it's a waste of time even acknowledging your presence on this forum
              Have you been watching or listening to too much Rumpole of the Bailey....
              bong ching

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              • Boilk
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 976

                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                I don't think that a "nation" can have "guts" in the way you describe...
                Agreed. The people of Leningrad might have shown guts during the 872-day siege, but the British people back in 1982? Didn't they just tune in to the BBC and ITN primarily for the 'excitement' rather than because of any allegiance to the inhabitants of a group of islands most of them didn't know existed up until then?

                One person who did show guts was the late Diana Gould, who dared to ask Thatcher, in a BBC Nationwide phone-in, why she'd ordered the Navy to fire on a retreating Argentinian vessel - resulting in the deaths of several hundred- when it was apparently outside the exclusion zone.

                Thatcher responded (with tacit support from Sue Lawley) with an attitude showing that she believed herself to be above being questioned and held to account by such a lowly "nobody".

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                • Beef Oven

                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  Quite
                  So you're ok with wrong answers, you just don't like wrong questions LMFAO!!!

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    Well, i know she was acontreversial figure, but she changed the way Labour thought and also managed to doi 'business', with the Russians, Plus I thought it was shear guts and determination that she sent a task force to the Falkland Islands. I mean, look at the recent referendum they had there. they would'nt have had it if no Task Force were sent!
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • Beef Oven

                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      I'm not joining you

                      (All aboard the ship of fools)


                      I forgot to add 'denial' to an earlier post

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                        I thought it was shear guts and determination that she sent a task force to the Falkland Islands. I mean, look at the recent referendum they had there. they would'nt have had it if no Task Force were sent!
                        I mean..........
                        just look at the lengths some people will go to in order to win an election ............. it shows no "guts" to get someone to die on your behalf just incredible arrogance and a sense of superiority.

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                        • MrGongGong
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                          I forgot to add 'denial' to an earlier post
                          A word that shouldn't go along with the phrase "climate change" then ?

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                          • Beef Oven

                            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                            I mean..........
                            just look at the lengths some people will go to in order to win an election ............. it shows no "guts" to get someone to die on your behalf just incredible arrogance and a sense of superiority.
                            Galtieri was wobbling, true, but you can't say that he invaded the Falklands just to win an election.

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                            • Beef Oven

                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              A word that shouldn't go along with the phrase "climate change" then ?
                              Climate change? What climate change?

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                              • amateur51

                                Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                                Oh my. That's rich, coming from you of all people.
                                House Rules

                                Please treat other members respectfully, even/especially if you disagree with what they are saying;

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