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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37595

    Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
    Can anyone explain, I wonder, why Thatcher is to have some special kind of funeral? I genuinely can't see why she should be treated any differently from any other PM, and I'm pretty sure they mostly just have fairly ordinary funerals. I suppose it might be because she was the first woman PM - not really a very good reason, but somehow I don't think it's that.

    I haven't read all of this thread, so apologies if anyone has brought this up already.



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    It's been mentioned but so far not commented on, Mary.

    My own view is this will be a celebration of the rich, by the rich and for the rich, for Thatcher's bringing back the full-blown Adam Smith-type liberal free market economics that have made them lots and lots of lucre wherever and whenever they wanted, regardless of unsustainability and the ever-widening gap between themselves and everyone else. And that's even before we get onto the cost to the taxpayer of such a state funeral - why, after all, should they care when the consequent sacrifices will be passed down the line, as usual? .

    I hope it's being planned to give her a really big send-off!

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    • Beef Oven

      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      I'm going to have to distract you with some obscure electronica again , aren't I ?
      It's a deal!!!!

      It works for me.

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      • eighthobstruction
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6432

        Originally posted by John Wright View Post
        Eh? We were at war with them in 1953, and looking at their history since your suggestion is most unlikely. GG you are out of your depth, you don't know history and you don't know war.


        Blessed are the literal....for they shall inherit the wrong end of the stick ....
        bong ching

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        • John Wright
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          • Mar 2007
          • 705

          Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
          Can anyone explain, I wonder, why Thatcher is to have some special kind of funeral?
          Well, former PM Sir Winston Churchill had a very special funeral, one my early memories. I'm sure others did. It's someone else's decision Mary, not yours :o
          - - -

          John W

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          • John Wright
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            • Mar 2007
            • 705

            Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
            Blessed are the literal....for they shall inherit the wrong end of the stick ....
            Na, I was just poking GG with it :o
            - - -

            John W

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            • EdgeleyRob
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12180

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              I've merged the two threads since the wrangling is being carried out on both.
              Is it still ok for me and 8o to party on this merged one ?

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              • amateur51

                Originally posted by John Wright View Post
                If you read again what I said, being outside an exclusion zone does not guarantee the aggressor any 'protection'. Being inside an exclusion zone the aggressor has a certainty of attack, it's a deterrent. Outside the zone you may or may not be attacked.

                I know the Belgrano was moving west when it was hit, but in war you can be attacked when retreating.
                And if the exclusion zone had recently been increased in size? It really does seem to be very convenient for Thatcher's government.

                Thatcher herself did not use your argument in her wrangle (ff's word ) with Diana Gould. She used the 'Belgrano was a danger to our ships even when moving away' argument, which is pretty hard to swallow.

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                • french frank
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                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30249

                  Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                  Is it still ok for me and 8o to party on this merged one ?
                  Of course, people can party if they wish . But it may end up as a party in the basement. With apologies/regrets to those who have contributed thoughtful posts. The basement doesn't mean that the 'partying' can't go on for as long as people want
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • amateur51

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    I've merged the two threads since the wrangling is being carried out on both.
                    You have retained the RIP bit of the title, something with which I not wish to be associated but which I am forced to endorse apparently by your action, ff - inadvertently I'm sure.

                    Could this be remedied please?

                    Edit: I'd be quite happy with 'Baroness Thatcher Is Dead' as a title
                    Last edited by Guest; 08-04-13, 17:50. Reason: Edit

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                    • MrGongGong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                      It's a deal!!!!

                      It works for me.
                      Blimey
                      it's like going on holiday with a confused elderly relative
                      ("here you are, just sit down here with this La Monte Young Cd while I go and get us an ice cream, and don't wander off !")

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                      • Beef Oven

                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        Blimey
                        it's like going on holiday with a confused elderly relative
                        ("here you are, just sit down here with this La Monte Young Cd while I go and get us an ice cream, and don't wander off !")
                        No robbery in a fair exchange

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11669

                          Strikingly Baroness Thatcher always would not allow the Treasury to attack child benefit ! Says a lot about this current shower. I suspect she would never have countenanced the attacks on the rule of law either .

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                          • Mary Chambers
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1963

                            Originally posted by John Wright View Post
                            Well, former PM Sir Winston Churchill had a very special funeral, one my early memories. I'm sure others did. It's someone else's decision Mary, not yours :o
                            I have already realised it's not my decision, John.

                            Who decides? The government, I suppose. Public money should not be used for this. There will have to be enormous security.

                            I remember Churchill's funeral all too well. I was in my first job in a city where I knew nobody, and Churchill's death took over the radio for at least two weeks. I was furious. This funeral is going to be the same, and I'm furious this time, too.

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                            • EdgeleyRob
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12180

                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              You have retained the RIP bit of the title, something with which I not wish to be associated but which I am forced to endorse apparently by your action, ff - inadvertently I'm sure.

                              Could this be remedied please?

                              Edit: I'd be quite happy with 'Baroness Thatcher Is Dead' as a title
                              Rust in peace is better.

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30249

                                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                                You have retained the RIP bit of the title, something with which I not wish to be associated but which I am forced to endorse apparently by your action, ff - inadvertently I'm sure.

                                Could this be remedied please?
                                It wasn't inadvertent. Your first post retains your own title. The House Rules also say - since you have yourself quoted them - "please do not start topics or post messages which are designed to be provocative". You must know that some members - albeit a small minority - would find that title provocative.

                                I know that feelings run very high on this topic, but something more analytical (and critical, it goes without saying) would be welcome.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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