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Beef Oven
Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post1: So gay people CAN get married after all .....
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2: It's not a word I use often or feel very strongly about so as you seem to maybe you should go first !
2. Both of us know it would be like Custer's last stand to go first on that one!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Beef Oven View PostWell no-one seems to want to have a real discussion about class, that's why.
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Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostMy impression was that people were having quite a good discussion, & then Simon threw a hissy fit (as usual) & you joined in.
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Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostMy impression was that people were having quite a good discussion, & then Simon threw a hissy fit (as usual) & you joined in.
Simon is a control freak, he wants to set the parameters of every conversation then throws his toys out of the pram if people wander "off task". I wonder if there really are any people having his "intellectual" conversations in private as he likes to tell us from time to time OR that these are more him "reasoning" with himself........ BUT mr Beef , even though you do like a bit of banter, you really don't have to join in.
(I guess that's a load of middle-class-pseudo-babble-nonsense as well ..........)
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Beef Oven
Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostThat is about it
Simon is a control freak, he wants to set the parameters of every conversation then throws his toys out of the pram if people wander "off task". I wonder if there really are any people having his "intellectual" conversations in private as he likes to tell us from time to time OR that these are more him "reasoning" with himself........ BUT mr Beef , even though you do like a bit of banter, you really don't have to join in.
(I guess that's a load of middle-class-pseudo-babble-nonsense as well ..........)
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Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
S_A offers the definition of class as set by the relationship to ownership ... and then aserts that Social Staus is subjective when it is the single most potent variable [far more so than ownership of 'capital'] in studies of life development ....
the great paradox of equality is that one must be against it, it is not what nature provides, to achieve it requires a totalitarian enforcement ... yet we cannot bear inequality and must drive it down in all conscience ... i am impressed by Popper and Berlin, we can never reconcile everything but an open [in the sense of both discourse and mobility] society where the probability of any individual living a positive and self determined life is high, and certainly higher than in Britain currently, is what i would wish for ...
nor do i lay the blame at capitalisms door; put ten humans in a room for five seconds and there will be the beginnings of a status hierarchy; yet as Boehm argues it is the more egalitarian and cooperative hunter gatherers that adapted best ...
we do have to contend with our primate nature and it would be naive anti reductionism to deny it ... but we are not prisoners of this,
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Beef Oven
Originally posted by AnnaWOW!! Dead Classy Answer!
Should this thread be closed?
In case you aint noticed, some of them in here are having a decent intellectual exchange. They're talking about 'power' but they don't know it.
So slow down, and hold your neurotic tendencies in check.
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Anna
Originally posted by Beef Oven View PostHere we go, usual melodrama! PM to the mod!
In case you aint noticed, some of them inhere are having a decent intellectual exchange. They're talking about 'power' but they don't know it.
So slow down, and hold your neurotic tendencies in check.
Edit: I had a Volvo. Passengers had a nasty habit of sliding off the heated leather seats.
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Originally posted by Beef Oven View PostHere we go
Originally posted by Beef Oven View Postusual melodrama
Originally posted by Beef Oven View PostPM to the mod!
Originally posted by Beef Oven View PostIn case you aint noticed, some of them in here are having a decent intellectual exchange. They're talking about 'power' but they don't know it.
Originally posted by Beef Oven View PostSo slow down, and hold your neurotic tendencies in check.
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Originally posted by Anna View PostOh, pardon me Squire (touches forelock and adjusts dimity smock) I am everso 'umble, I do beg your permission Kind Sir, yes it's Me Neurotics what gets the bests of me, Doctor says it's acause I'm female, you know one of those do you, sort of at times random in her emotions. Doctor says soon as I buckle down under a real man and he takes me in hand these fantasies will stop. <retreats, curtsey, and other humble stuff>
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