Death penalty ?

[Mr Pee]

No you didn't. It's the headline that says that.

If you bother to read the text you'll find that "When given a choice between two possible punishments for a convicted murderer, half of respondents (51%) select the death penalty, while 35 per cent pick life imprisonment.". So fourteen percent did not choose either and the proportion of respondents that wanted capital punished was a modest majority (of 1% of the total).

I wonder who paid for this survey

And what's a survery?

I did read the text, although you obviously did not. Or you just absorbed the bits that fit your view, as is your wont.

Here are some bits you missed:-

In the online survey of a representative national sample of 2,009 British adults, 65 per cent of respondents support reinstating the death penalty for murder in Great Britain, virtually unchanged since 2011.

Three-in-four Britons (75%) would agree with MPs debating in the House of Commons whether the death penalty should be reinstated in the country.

And I have no idea who paid for this survey. Perhaps it was The Guardian. Or Gay Times. or J K Rowling. Who cares?

I would be quite satisfied, for example, if the state were to save us all the expense of looking after April Jones's murderer for the rest of his natural life.

Although I am with you one one point; hanging is inhumane.


Lethal injection is a much better alternative these days.

[Beef Oven]

Ah, straight out of the NRA's mouth

No, straight out of my mouth!

And it's been this way ever since I can remember.

Who are you worried about Amsy? The Moors murderers? Sutcliffe? Dennis Nilsen maybe?

Yeah, Barbaric to kill them, let's rehabilitate.

[MrGongGong]

Yes it does. You kill the shits in society and protect the good guys.

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I knew it
you've been round at the Peesters watching Hot Fuzz again haven't you ?

The Kippers are so much like the neighborhood watch association in that great movie , why didn't I notice before ?



the phrase "box of frogs" springs to mind

[amateur51]

I did read the text, although you obviously did not. Or you just absorbed the bits that fit your view, as is your wont.

Here are some bits you missed:-





And I have no idea who paid for this survey. Perhaps it was The Guardian. Or Gay Times. or J K Rowling. Who cares?

I would be quite satisfied, for example, if the state were to save us all the expense of looking after April Jones's murderer for the rest of his natural life.

Although I am with you one one point; hanging is inhumane.


Lethal injection is a much better alternative these days.

Do you think that 51% is a huge majority Mr Pee?

Oh yes I can see that you'd find a lethal injection less distressing

[Mr Pee]

Do you think that 51% is a huge majority Mr Pee?

Oh yes I can see that you'd find a lethal injection less distressing

Let's try again. PLEASE try to understand:-

In the online survey of a representative national sample of 2,009 British adults, 65 per cent of respondents support reinstating the death penalty for murder in Great Britain, virtually unchanged since 2011.

The highest level of support for the return of capital punishment comes from men (68%) and Britons over the age of 55 (69%).

(By the way, a "survery", is, a you keep calling it, a trypo.)

[MrGongGong]

So I guess one concludes that intelligence decreases with age (over the age of 55)
and men are more likely to be unpleasant (68%)

I'm not sure how this has any bearing on the wonderful news that we are going to have equal marriage ?
but raise a glass to the end of bigotry

[amateur51]

Let's try again. PLEASE try to understand:-



(By the way, a "survery", is, a you keep calling it, a trypo.)

The piont I'm trying to make is that this is a complex issue. Why choose an American sampling agency to undertake this survey? Do you regard that as a large enough sample? You'd need to take into account that we have not had capital punishment in this country for a very long time, so you'd need to ensure that you included the views of those who were around before it was ended.

And what is this doing on a Gay Marriage thread? There's a danger you're going to get the second such thread closed, Mr Pee

[amateur51]

So I guess one concludes that intelligence decreases with age (over the age of 55)
and men are more likely to be unpleasant (68%)

I'm not sure how this has any bearing on the wonderful news that we are going to have equal marriage ?
but raise a glass to the end of bigotry

Yay! A breath of fresh air, MrGG

[Barbirollians]

Death penalty ?

Rabid right wingers would be horrified to hear that we cannot reinstate the death penalty without leaving - the European Convention on Human Rights and the European Union or delighted I suppose .

We have signed the Protocol to the ECHR forbidding the death penalty and membership of the Council of Europe is a condition of membership of the EU

[amateur51]

Rabid right wingers would be horrified to hear that we cannot reinstate the death penalty without leaving - the European Convention on Human Rights and the European Union or delighted I suppose .

We have signed the Protocol to the ECHR forbidding the death penalty and membership of the Council of Europe is a condition of membership of the EU

[teamsaint]

i would rather pay the costs of prison for murderers than risk a state murder of people like this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7052109.stm

Plus killing people is wrong. We all agree that, don't we?

[ahinton]

Well, I think that every instance of gay marriage ought to attract the death penalty not only for those gays who so marry but also for those who marry them and possibly even for those who encourage it to take place. I also think that, since the present government that has passed this legislation through HoC and will almost certainly get it through onto the statute books irrespective of what HoL might try to do to stop it, every MP that voted in favour of it should similarly be subject to the death penalty. And if the ECHR doesn't like it, then it can go commit suicide. On top of all of that, I think that what I'm writing here is utter cr*p.

The death penalty has nothing to do with gay marriage. The former was outlawed in Britain many years ago and the latter made legal there days ago, but they are entirely unconnected issues. If Britain ever wanted to try to reinstate the former, it would indeed have first to leave not only EU but also the Council of Europe and, above all, whatever might be left of its senses. As someone rather neatly pointed out recently, "what place would an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" have in a society that's already cut all state funding for opthalmological and dental services?". The most rabid of death penalty favourers would seek its adoption for other serious crimes in addition to murder; what sort of society would favour that today? I cannot even imagine Mr Barrage supporting that!

But can we ditch the death penalty issue just as most of us would ditch the death penalty itself and return to the thread topic?

[MrGongGong]

Plus killing people is wrong. We all agree that, don't we?

Some of us do
but there are some who strangely find the idea difficult

[Beef Oven]

i would rather pay the costs of prison for murderers than risk a state murder of people like this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7052109.stm

Plus killing people is wrong. We all agree that, don't we?

Depends who you are killing. Some people desreve to die, don't they?

Wish I'd been with those kids on the Moors, I'd have gladly taken out the Hindleys - or given the option, wait for the state to do it instead.

[ahinton]

Depends who you are killing.

I'm not killing anyone.

[QUOTE=Beef Oven;260282]Some people desreve to die, don't they?
"Desreve" or not, who shuold be the jugde of taht? You?

Wish I'd been with those kids on the Moors, I'd have gladly taken out the Hindleys

How many Hindleys were involved in the Moors murders, as far as you know? And where would you have "taken" them "out"? - a 2-Michelin-starred restaurant, at the taxpayers' expense?

or given the option, wait for the state to do it instead.

Interesting that you claim to be prepared to give the state an option, even though whatever it did would have to be supported by an electorate and funded by the taxpayer...