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  • Beef Oven

    #46
    [QUOTE=ahinton;260286]I'm not killing anyone.

    Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
    Some people desreve to die, don't they?
    "Desreve" or not, who shuold be the jugde of taht? You?


    How many Hindleys were involved in the Moors murders, as far as you know? And where would you have "taken" them "out"? - a 2-Michelin-starred restaurant, at the taxpayers' expense?


    Interesting that you claim to be prepared to give the state an option, even though whatever it did would have to be supported by an electorate and funded by the taxpayer...
    And your point is what Mr Hinton?

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    • teamsaint
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      • Nov 2010
      • 25195

      #47
      hopelessly OT now, but it IS odd that the state is so squeamish about hanging the odd serial killer while perpetrating a sequence of appallingly bloody conflicts, actively encouraging the arms trade, and doing god only knows what in the name of national security.
      But logic or morals aren't so fashionable in politics
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • ahinton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 16122

        #48
        Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
        I'm not killing anyone.
        And your point is what Mr Hinton?
        Precisely as written (deliberate typos excepted, naturellement).

        You wrote "Depends who you are killing"; I replied that I wasn't killing anyone but, as I recognise that you were not specifically and solely addressing me, my remark was - quite correctly, I'm sure - intended to convey the fact that no one else here is killing anyone either. Seems pretty clear to me.

        You wrote of being willing to "take out" "the Hindleys". I asked how many of them you thought were involved in the Moors murders (to which you were obviously referring), where you'd "take them" and ant whose expense.

        My last point was to question what you'd expect "the state" to do and why, given your apparent lack of concern for the circumstances in which "the state" might be empowered by the electorate to do anything (at least in theory).

        Again, it looks pretty clear and unequivocal to me...

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        • Beef Oven

          #49
          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
          Precisely as written (deliberate typos excepted, naturellement).

          You wrote "Depends who you are killing"; I replied that I wasn't killing anyone but, as I recognise that you were not specifically and solely addressing me, my remark was - quite correctly, I'm sure - intended to convey the fact that no one else here is killing anyone either. Seems pretty clear to me.

          You wrote of being willing to "take out" "the Hindleys". I asked how many of them you thought were involved in the Moors murders (to which you were obviously referring), where you'd "take them" and ant whose expense.

          My last point was to question what you'd expect "the state" to do and why, given your apparent lack of concern for the circumstances in which "the state" might be empowered by the electorate to do anything (at least in theory).

          Again, it looks pretty clear and unequivocal to me...
          You've not taken your tablets again.

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          • ahinton
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            • Nov 2010
            • 16122

            #50
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            hopelessly OT now, but it IS odd that the state is so squeamish about hanging the odd serial killer while perpetrating a sequence of appallingly bloody conflicts, actively encouraging the arms trade, and doing god only knows what in the name of national security.
            But logic or morals aren't so fashionable in politics
            When have they ever been?! But no - the state is not "squeamish" about this - it simply does not have the endorsement of the majority of the electorate to do this, although I do at the same time agree that it almost certainly doesn't have that support to carry out the rest of what you write about, which rather tends to prove the assertion that not only "logic and morals" but also complying with the wishes of the majority of the electorate "aren't so fashionable in politics"! (and that would be no different in the utterly improbably event that "the government" of UK or whichever parts of it might be left were under the diktat of a UKIP administration, frankly)...

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            • ahinton
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              • Nov 2010
              • 16122

              #51
              Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
              You've not taken your tablets again.
              That's because I have none to take. I answered your questions to the best of my ability and as politely as I could. If all that you're capable of doing in response to those clear and unequivocal answers is to make puerile references to the taking of non-prescribed and accordingly non-existent medication, all that you achieve is to demonstrate to the readership here that, as you have no valid argument, you have nothing else at your disposal but to try, unsuccessfully, to change the subject to a medical one. Oh - and, by the way - even if I did have some prescribed medication to take and I'd taken it, my answers to your points would have been just as they are now.

              Never mind.

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              • Beef Oven

                #52
                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                That's because I have none to take. I answered your questions to the best of my ability and as politely as I could. If all that you're capable of doing in response to those clear and unequivocal answers is to make puerile references to the taking of non-prescribed and accordingly non-existent medication, all that you achieve is to demonstrate to the readership here that, as you have no valid argument, you have nothing else at your disposal but to try, unsuccessfully, to change the subject to a medical one. Oh - and, by the way - even if I did have some prescribed medication to take and I'd taken it, my answers to your points would have been just as they are now.

                Never mind.
                You are a very odd lady.

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                • Mr Pee
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3285

                  #53
                  Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                  And what is this doing on a Gay Marriage thread? There's a danger you're going to get the second such thread closed, Mr Pee
                  Well, first of all, I didn't first raise the subject, and secondly, you seem to be very keen to debate it. It takes two to tango. Or derail a thread....
                  Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                  Mark Twain.

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                  • ahinton
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                    You are a very odd lady.
                    Is that supposed to mean anything (other than to you, that is)? Does it contribute to a discussion of the subject? Does it address any answers to any questions therein? Since the answers to the second and third are obviously in the negative and that to the first might well also be but doesn't matter either way, it seems clear that your post here is imbued with nothing but superfluity.

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                    • Mr Pee
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3285

                      #55
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      So I guess one concludes that intelligence decreases with age (over the age of 55)
                      and men are more likely to be unpleasant (68%)
                      Nothing like a couple of meaningless generalisations, Mr.GG.

                      Congratulations on insulting not only an entire generation, but an entire gender.

                      If only everyone could be right all the time, like you.
                      Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                      Mark Twain.

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                        Is that supposed to mean anything (other than to you, that is)? Does it contribute to a discussion of the subject? Does it address any answers to any questions therein? Since the answers to the second and third are obviously in the negative and that to the first might well also be but doesn't matter either way, it seems clear that your post here is imbued with nothing but superfluity.
                        I would not fret about captain beef
                        he is mad as a box of frogs
                        and a complete mass of contradictions
                        how many enthusiasts for the odd corners of experimental music
                        are rabid kippers ?

                        No logic
                        no problem ....... and back on topic

                        another toast for equal marriage

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                        • Beef Oven

                          #57
                          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                          Is that supposed to mean anything (other than to you, that is)? Does it contribute to a discussion of the subject? Does it address any answers to any questions therein? Since the answers to the second and third are obviously in the negative and that to the first might well also be but doesn't matter either way, it seems clear that your post here is imbued with nothing but superfluity.
                          You need to rest.

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                          • ahinton
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16122

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                            Well, first of all, I didn't first raise the subject, and secondly, you seem to be very keen to debate it. It takes two to tango. Or derail a thread....
                            I have no desire to derail a thread (why does it have to run on rails anyway? - can't it at least try to use a multi-lane motorway without the risk of obstructive leaves thereon?) and still less to tango, but it doesn't matter who raised either the thread topic or that of the death penalty, if the two subjects are materially unconnected it is an irrelevant distraction for anyone either to raise or respond to an implied call to draw them together as though they are indeed somehow inherently related - unless, of course, you believe (albeit tacitly) that anyone desirous of marrying or having already married someone of the same sex ought to be subjected to the death penalty...

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                            • MrGongGong
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                              Nothing like a couple of meaningless generalisations, Mr.GG.

                              Congratulations on insulting not only an entire generation, but an entire gender.

                              If only everyone could be right all the time, like you.
                              You really DO take yourself far too seriously
                              not meaningless, but I guess it doesn't chime with you

                              I'm really worried about your blood pressure

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                              • Mr Pee
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3285

                                #60
                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                You really DO take yourself far too seriously
                                not meaningless, but I guess it doesn't chime with you

                                I'm really worried about your blood pressure
                                AND repeat.....

                                Your default excuse for posting drivel now seems to be......"I was only joking Guv!"

                                The point about a joke, Mr GG, is that it should be funny.
                                Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                                Mark Twain.

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