PC World

[amateur51]

Political correctness is the left's last redoubt: it knew it had lost politically so it invented a form of cultural blackguardism by which anyone who disagreed with standard left-liberal positions on a range of cultural issues could be conveniently labelled as sexist/racist/homophobic/ageist/delete as appropriate.

Those who deny that such a thing as political correctness exists are being dishonest and attempting to delude others: evidence of it is abundant everywhere - in the preposterous 'equality' policies operated by councils, colleges and universities; in Labour's preposterous 'Human Rights' act; and in the overpaid public sector academic 'Mary Beard' telling an ordinary member of the public that 'immigration is not a problem'. In fact, it's all over the public sector like terminal cancer.

It can also be seen in the postings on this forum made by brain-dead leftists whose views were formed decades ago by what they were told by the Guardian, Spare Rib (RIP), Red Dwarf(RIP), New Society (RIP) and the New Statesmen (soon, hopefully, to be RIP).

Did Paul Johnson tell you that, Mandy?

[Pabmusic]

I am glad we agree on a matter of religion even if only once, Pab ...

I don't want to label anything 'PC'. I didn't invent the damn thing. I just wish it would go away ... honestly....

I'm not sure how Richard Dawkins got into this, but it was very interesting anyway.

[MrGongGong]

I don't want to label anything 'PC'. I didn't invent the damn thing. I just wish it would go away ... honestly.

As you are so fond of definitions
can you tell me (from Oxford dictionaries online) what you find so offensive about this ?

The avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against:

Seems fine to me .......

[Mandryka]

"84% of the public, apparently, think that political correctness has gone mad. I don't know if it has. People still get killed for being the wrong colour or the wrong sexuality, or whatever. And what is political correctness? It's an often clumsy negotiation towards a kind of formally inclusive language. There's all sorts of problems with it but it's better than what we had before." Stewart Lee (source)

But perhaps Mandryka would like to receive leaflets through his letterbox warning him about the "p*kis" and "n*ggers" and "queers" in his community, as used to happen in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s?

EDIT

I see Decantor and Scottycelt could benefit from reading the above, too.

As per usual, you miss the point - but then, that was your intention, wasn't it?

Any system of thought that enables zealots to label ALL those who disagree with mass immigration as 'racist', those who disagree with homosexual marriage as 'homophobic', or those who object to Israeli foreign policy as 'holocaust deniers' (or those who believe that Islam should be reformed as 'anti-Muslim') is, by definition, EVIL and should be challenged.

A few weeks ago, Peter Hitchens made an excellent case against 'liberal bigotry' on Question Time, when confronted with that arch liberal bigot, the egregious 'Will' Self.

And Paul Johnson, for Amy's information, is 100% pro-Israeli and very critical of Israel's critics.

I do have some sympathy with Netanyahu - not over his foreign policy, but over his attempt to deregulate Israel's nasty and inefficient state-controlled system of 'public' transport.

[amateur51]

And Paul Johnson, for Amy's information, is 100% pro-Israeli and very critical of Israel's critics.

Scarcely a surprise Mandy - that Johnson should think like this and that you should know it

[Thropplenoggin]

Mandryka citing Daily Heil pundit, Peter Hitchens, put me in mind of this:

[Mr Pee]

[Mandryka]

Thankfully, the Guardian is only an influential paper among uninfluential people.

[amateur51]

Thankfully, the Guardian is only an influential paper among uninfluential people.

Yeah right, Mandy - Wikileaks? Phone-hacking?

How quickly the hamster in its wheel forgets

[Thropplenoggin]

Yeah right, Mandy - Wikileaks? Phone-hacking?

How quickly the hamster in its wheel forgets

[Mandryka]

Most people seemed to think the 'wikileaks' revelations were underwhelming; and the sense that Assange is a bit a fraud and a trickster has grown persuasively ever since.

Rupert Murdoch remains powerful and influential in British politics, despite the demise of the NoW; come 2015, politicians of all parties will want his number again and the public will have long forgotten.

More worryingly, a lot of people seem to take their world view from the Guardian - a bit like living on a diet of tripe (literal and metaphorical); but, as I have said, these people are not influential - on the contrary, they are the disenfranchised (public sector schoolteachers, the unemployed - who read it in libraries/online - oh, and pensioned-off public service employees in North London).
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[amateur51]

Most people seemed to think the 'wikileaks' revelations were underwhelming; and the sense that Assange is a bit a fraud and a trickster has grown persuasively ever since.

Rupert Murdoch remains powerful and influential in British politics, despite the demise of the NoW; come 2015, politicians of all parties will want his number again and the public will have long forgotten.

More worryingly, a lot of people seem to take their world view from the Guardian - a bit like living on a diet of tripe (literal and metaphorical); but, as I have said, these people are not influential - on the contrary, they are the disenfranchised (public sector schoolteachers, the unemployed - who read it in libraries/online - oh, and pensioned-off public service employees in North London).
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I worked for a quango for six months, Mandy otherwise it was record shops and voluntary sector, so no big pension to look forward to for me. Still too young to be state-pensioned off, I'm afraid but I take up disability benefits as my income, to which I am entitled currently and for which I'm grateful. I haven't a clue what will happen from April '13 and it's only a matter of weeks away

I can honestly say that I've never been happier.

You, however, must be gutted

[MrGongGong]

More worryingly, a lot of people seem to take their world view from the Guardian - a bit like living on a diet of tripe (literal and metaphorical); but, as I have said, these people are not influential - on the contrary, they are the disenfranchised (public sector schoolteachers, the unemployed - who read it in libraries/online - oh, and pensioned-off public service employees in North London).
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What I said in message 41

Made up news with Mandy again

[Mandryka]

I worked for a quango for six months, Mandy otherwise it was record shops and voluntary sector, so no big pension to look forward to for me. Still too young to be state-pensioned off, I'm afraid but I take up disability benefits as my income, to which I am entitled currently and for which I'm grateful. I haven't a clue what will happen from April '13 and it's only a matter of weeks away

I can honestly say that I've never been happier.

You, however, must be gutted

You've lived to see your central belief - socialism - derided into obscurity. There is no way that your good old days of union militancy, nationalisation, bra-burning (not that that would have done much for you, but I assume you approved) and crippling strikes are ever going to come back.

And that makes me VERY happy! :)

[Stephen Whitaker]

A particular problem with the Non-PC brigade is that they believe their personal claim to moral worth and even intelligence, is entangled with their opinions.
Therefore the Telegraph and Mail writers who reinforce their world view, such as Peter Hitchens and Melanie Phillips, are licensed to be provocative and scathing.
Gerald Scarfe, Stewart Lee or Polly Toynbee are not permitted these freedoms, being excoriated as self-loathing liberals and so forth.
It’s not just that the Non-PC brigade disagree with them; it’s that they feel superior to the 'disenfranchised', public sector schoolteachers, etc,
and so they happily expose the PC brigade as morally bad, often on the basis of hearsay.