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Originally posted by scottycelt View PostI am glad we agree on a matter of religion even if only once, Pab ...
I don't want to label anything 'PC'. I didn't invent the damn thing. I just wish it would go away ... honestly....
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Originally posted by scottycelt View PostI don't want to label anything 'PC'. I didn't invent the damn thing. I just wish it would go away ... honestly.
can you tell me (from Oxford dictionaries online) what you find so offensive about this ?
The avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against:
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Mandryka
Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post"84% of the public, apparently, think that political correctness has gone mad. I don't know if it has. People still get killed for being the wrong colour or the wrong sexuality, or whatever. And what is political correctness? It's an often clumsy negotiation towards a kind of formally inclusive language. There's all sorts of problems with it but it's better than what we had before." Stewart Lee (source)
But perhaps Mandryka would like to receive leaflets through his letterbox warning him about the "p*kis" and "n*ggers" and "queers" in his community, as used to happen in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s?
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I see Decantor and Scottycelt could benefit from reading the above, too.
Any system of thought that enables zealots to label ALL those who disagree with mass immigration as 'racist', those who disagree with homosexual marriage as 'homophobic', or those who object to Israeli foreign policy as 'holocaust deniers' (or those who believe that Islam should be reformed as 'anti-Muslim') is, by definition, EVIL and should be challenged.
A few weeks ago, Peter Hitchens made an excellent case against 'liberal bigotry' on Question Time, when confronted with that arch liberal bigot, the egregious 'Will' Self.
And Paul Johnson, for Amy's information, is 100% pro-Israeli and very critical of Israel's critics.
I do have some sympathy with Netanyahu - not over his foreign policy, but over his attempt to deregulate Israel's nasty and inefficient state-controlled system of 'public' transport.
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Mandryka
Most people seemed to think the 'wikileaks' revelations were underwhelming; and the sense that Assange is a bit a fraud and a trickster has grown persuasively ever since.
Rupert Murdoch remains powerful and influential in British politics, despite the demise of the NoW; come 2015, politicians of all parties will want his number again and the public will have long forgotten.
More worryingly, a lot of people seem to take their world view from the Guardian - a bit like living on a diet of tripe (literal and metaphorical); but, as I have said, these people are not influential - on the contrary, they are the disenfranchised (public sector schoolteachers, the unemployed - who read it in libraries/online - oh, and pensioned-off public service employees in North London).
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amateur51
Originally posted by Mandryka View PostMost people seemed to think the 'wikileaks' revelations were underwhelming; and the sense that Assange is a bit a fraud and a trickster has grown persuasively ever since.
Rupert Murdoch remains powerful and influential in British politics, despite the demise of the NoW; come 2015, politicians of all parties will want his number again and the public will have long forgotten.
More worryingly, a lot of people seem to take their world view from the Guardian - a bit like living on a diet of tripe (literal and metaphorical); but, as I have said, these people are not influential - on the contrary, they are the disenfranchised (public sector schoolteachers, the unemployed - who read it in libraries/online - oh, and pensioned-off public service employees in North London).
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I can honestly say that I've never been happier.
You, however, must be gutted
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Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
More worryingly, a lot of people seem to take their world view from the Guardian - a bit like living on a diet of tripe (literal and metaphorical); but, as I have said, these people are not influential - on the contrary, they are the disenfranchised (public sector schoolteachers, the unemployed - who read it in libraries/online - oh, and pensioned-off public service employees in North London).
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What I said in message 41
Made up news with Mandy again
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Mandryka
Originally posted by amateur51 View PostI worked for a quango for six months, Mandy otherwise it was record shops and voluntary sector, so no big pension to look forward to for me. Still too young to be state-pensioned off, I'm afraid but I take up disability benefits as my income, to which I am entitled currently and for which I'm grateful. I haven't a clue what will happen from April '13 and it's only a matter of weeks away
I can honestly say that I've never been happier.
You, however, must be gutted
And that makes me VERY happy! :)
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Stephen Whitaker
A particular problem with the Non-PC brigade is that they believe their personal claim to moral worth and even intelligence, is entangled with their opinions.
Therefore the Telegraph and Mail writers who reinforce their world view, such as Peter Hitchens and Melanie Phillips, are licensed to be provocative and scathing.
Gerald Scarfe, Stewart Lee or Polly Toynbee are not permitted these freedoms, being excoriated as self-loathing liberals and so forth.
It’s not just that the Non-PC brigade disagree with them; it’s that they feel superior to the 'disenfranchised', public sector schoolteachers, etc,
and so they happily expose the PC brigade as morally bad, often on the basis of hearsay.
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