PC World

[MrGongGong]

What do you expect them to do? Defend themselves against such a threat with feather dusters? It's called deterrence.

how ignorant and stupid can you get ?
They pretend NOT to have nuclear weapons and "we" go along with it playing into the hands of extremists on all sides .........

Israel does not own the Jewish religion
and is a state that was achieved through acts of terrorism
which is a great inspiration for all sorts of nutcases

which DOESN'T mean that it's OK to fire rockets into Israel (hope you can read that !!!!!!!!)

[Mr Pee]

Mr Pee we have been through this business about Iran & Israel & nuclear weapons and the mistranslation of Iram's threat to Israel many times before. You are in danger of trolling.

It seems to me, Amateur, that every time a poster dares to posit a view that is counter to your particular view of the world, you and your chum Mr.GG accuse them of trolling. I will not change my views to suit you. If you call that trolling, then that's your perogative.

[amateur51]

It seems to me, Amateur, that every time a poster dares to posit a view that is counter to your particular view of the world, you and your chum Mr.GG accuse them of trolling. I will not change my views to suit you. If you call that trolling, then that's your perogative.

I did not accuse you of trolling, read what I wrote you knee-jerker

[MrGongGong]

It was abandoned after the revolution as the Ayatollah Khomeini had religious reservations about nuclear weapons.

Of course there's nothing in the Old Testament about religious objections to killing people .......

[Mandryka]

Political correctness is the left's last redoubt: it knew it had lost politically so it invented a form of cultural blackguardism by which anyone who disagreed with standard left-liberal positions on a range of cultural issues could be conveniently labelled as sexist/racist/homophobic/ageist/delete as appropriate.

Those who deny that such a thing as political correctness exists are being dishonest and attempting to delude others: evidence of it is abundant everywhere - in the preposterous 'equality' policies operated by councils, colleges and universities; in Labour's preposterous 'Human Rights' act; and in the overpaid public sector academic 'Mary Beard' telling an ordinary member of the public that 'immigration is not a problem'. In fact, it's all over the public sector like terminal cancer.

It can also be seen in the postings on this forum made by brain-dead leftists whose views were formed decades ago by what they were told by the Guardian, Spare Rib (RIP), Red Dwarf(RIP), New Society (RIP) and the New Statesmen (soon, hopefully, to be RIP).

[MrGongGong]

Political correctness is the left's last redoubt: it knew it had lost politically so it invented a form of cultural blackguardism by which anyone who disagreed with standard left-liberal positions on a range of cultural issues could be conveniently labelled as sexist/racist/homophobic/ageist/delete as appropriate.

Those who deny that such a thing as political correctness exists are being dishonest and attempting to delude others: evidence of it is abundant everywhere - in the preposterous 'equality' policies operated by councils, colleges and universities; in Labour's preposterous 'Human Rights' act; and in the overpaid public sector academic 'Mary Beard' telling an ordinary member of the public that 'immigration is not a problem'. In fact, it's all over the public sector like terminal cancer.

It can also be seen in the postings on this forum made by brain-dead leftists whose views were formed decades ago by what they were told by the Guardian, Spare Rib (RIP), Red Dwarf(RIP), New Society (RIP) and the New Statesmen (soon, hopefully, to be RIP).

Simply Bollocks

[Mr Pee]

Simply Bollocks

Ah. Another trenchant argument from Mr. GG.......

[MrGongGong]

Ah, the joys of anonymity. Now repost it under your real name and wait for the fanatics to come at you.....

Anyway, back to Israel's right to defend itself from those same fanatics. The naivety and complacency of many here in the West never ceases to amaze. Imagine, if you will, that Britain was subject to daily attacks, randomly targeting civilian areas. That an atrocity on the scale of 7/7 was not an isolated incident, but a regular occurence. That suicide bombers routinely targeted cafes, buses, and restaurants. And that the leader of one of your nearest neighbouring countries openly called for you to be wiped from the map.

What would you expect our politicians to do? Lie back and let it carry on? Or take all necessary steps to bring such activity to a halt, including developing an effective deterrent and targeting those areas from which the rocket attacks and terrorists were originating?

Israel is a democratic state- itself an anathema to many in the Middle East- and recognized as such by the UN, since 1947. It has every right to defend itself and its citizens. We should admire the courage and determination of the Israeli people and their Government in facing up to years of aggression.

and yet more bollocks

[Mr Pee]

and yet more bollocks

And again....

[decantor]

Political correctness is the left's last redoubt: it knew it had lost politically so it invented a form of cultural blackguardism by which anyone who disagreed with standard left-liberal positions on a range of cultural issues could be conveniently labelled as sexist/racist/homophobic/ageist/delete as appropriate.

Those who deny that such a thing as political correctness exists are being dishonest and attempting to delude others: evidence of it is abundant everywhere - in the preposterous 'equality' policies operated by councils, colleges and universities; in Labour's preposterous 'Human Rights' act; and in the overpaid public sector academic 'Mary Beard' telling an ordinary member of the public that 'immigration is not a problem'. In fact, it's all over the public sector like terminal cancer.

It can also be seen in the postings on this forum made by brain-dead leftists whose views were formed decades ago by what they were told by the Guardian, Spare Rib (RIP), Red Dwarf(RIP), New Society (RIP) and the New Statesmen (soon, hopefully, to be RIP).

What a gloriously incisive critique of PC - the sterility of its origins, the corrosiveness of its effects, the ubiquitousness of its reach. It is indeed a cancer: it inhibits society's natural anti-bodies - free speech, open discussion, democratic decision-making - and results in a tumescence of contained rage that stifles decent folk and incites the worst into extreme action. It is strangling our ideals as well as our public services; whatever life is left is artificial.

Of course, I post only to counterbalance the intellectual challenge of the "bollocks" brigade - and to thank Mandryka.

[scottycelt]

Simply Bollocks

No, it's not .... some members on this forum have been accused of being 'bigots' for simply upholding official dictionary definitions which conflict with Political Correctness. Others, undoubtedly more important in the great scheme of things, have been similarly described (and worse).

Political Correctness is the new 'religion' complete with 'unscientific dogma'. Those who prefer to think for themselves are the new 'heretics'. 'Spanish Inquisitions' against individuals in the workplace have already taken place as those with even just a passing interest in current affairs are only too well aware.

PC is the curse of 'free and rational thought' and I'm astonished that you (of all people) haven't even noticed or, rather more likely, prefer to pretend it doesn't even exist, Mr GG .

[Pabmusic]

...Political Correctness is the new 'religion' complete with 'unscientific dogma'...

You know, Scotty, for once I agree with you on a matter of religion! Beware, though, of the tendency to label anything you don't agree with as 'PC' and everything you say as 'thinking for yourself'.

[MrGongGong]

PC is the curse of 'free and rational thought' and I'm astonished that you (of all people) haven't even noticed or, rather more likely, prefer to pretend it doesn't even exist, Mr GG .

The whole "PC" IS this , is that
is such a nebulous thing
and seems to simply mean "anything I disagree with and believe there is a conspiracy"
a bit like the "leftist" BBC nonsense ....... as I said somewhere else
2 anecdotes = evidence

Mandy is simply a misanthrope who is bitter about the Americans electing Obama and has some strange ideas about there being nothing of worth written in English
mr Pee seems to think that if one says one doesn't agree with something one is actively endorsing something else that one doesn't agree with ........

What is the Catholic doctrine on "rational" thought these days I wonder ?

I thought I was using the "dictionary" definition

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/bollocks

[Thropplenoggin]

Political correctness is the left's last redoubt: it knew it had lost politically so it invented a form of cultural blackguardism by which anyone who disagreed with standard left-liberal positions on a range of cultural issues could be conveniently labelled as sexist/racist/homophobic/ageist/delete as appropriate.

Those who deny that such a thing as political correctness exists are being dishonest and attempting to delude others: evidence of it is abundant everywhere - in the preposterous 'equality' policies operated by councils, colleges and universities; in Labour's preposterous 'Human Rights' act; and in the overpaid public sector academic 'Mary Beard' telling an ordinary member of the public that 'immigration is not a problem'. In fact, it's all over the public sector like terminal cancer.

It can also be seen in the postings on this forum made by brain-dead leftists whose views were formed decades ago by what they were told by the Guardian, Spare Rib (RIP), Red Dwarf(RIP), New Society (RIP) and the New Statesmen (soon, hopefully, to be RIP).

"84% of the public, apparently, think that political correctness has gone mad. I don't know if it has. People still get killed for being the wrong colour or the wrong sexuality, or whatever. And what is political correctness? It's an often clumsy negotiation towards a kind of formally inclusive language. There's all sorts of problems with it but it's better than what we had before." Stewart Lee (source)

But perhaps Mandryka would like to receive leaflets through his letterbox warning him about the "p*kis" and "n*ggers" and "queers" in his community, as used to happen in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s?

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I see Decantor and Scottycelt could benefit from reading the above, too.

[scottycelt]

You know, Scotty, for once I agree with you on a matter of religion! Beware, though, of the tendency to label anything you don't agree with as 'PC' and everything you say as 'thinking for yourself'.

I am glad we agree on a matter of religion even if only once, Pab ...

I don't want to label anything 'PC'. I didn't invent the damn thing. I just wish it would go away ... honestly.

I disagree vehemently with Professor Dawkins, yet I could never call this learned gentleman 'politically correct' ... he is mercifully free of that, and that is to his great credit.

He sometimes gets into trouble with the PC mob, himself ...

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/not-your-average-read/2011/jul/16/sexism-atheism-Dawkins-Watson-feminists-Skepchick/

Suddenly, I find myself warming to poor old Dawkins ...