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  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    Ignore lists

    Surely it's time to call a halt on having some "participants" in discussions choosing to not see every contribution ?
    What this means is that these people (or in this case "person") have some kind of special status so that some contributions have to be quoted by others
    it really makes trying to discuss things a waste of time
    there have been times when i've been minded to give up all together
    but there are things to be gained from participation
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30253

    #2
    MrGG - Only one person to my knowledge makes use of the Ignore facility and regularly reminds people that he can't see their posts because he's ignoring them (considered generally to be rather bad form).

    We know who it is and I'm a bit surprised that you should be bothered, since if he did read your posts and respond to them I can't think it would add a great deal to the forum discussions.


    PS I don't think it's possible to disable the Ignore function.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • amateur51

      #3
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      MrGG - Only one person to my knowledge makes use of the Ignore facility and regularly reminds people that he can't see their posts because he's ignoring them (considered generally to be rather bad form).

      We know who it is and I'm a bit surprised that you should be bothered, since if he did read your posts and respond to them I can't think it would add a great deal to the forum discussions.


      PS I don't think it's possible to disable the Ignore function.
      That may be so. But I think it would be welcome if you would make it clear to said member in public, french frank, that his frequent identifying of the ignored members' names and his mockery of them is bad form and possibly even grounds for suspension, as it is clearly provocation, cowardly provocation at that

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        MrGG - Only one person to my knowledge makes use of the Ignore facility and regularly reminds people that he can't see their posts because he's ignoring them (considered generally to be rather bad form).

        We know who it is and I'm a bit surprised that you should be bothered, since if he did read your posts and respond to them I can't think it would add a great deal to the forum discussions.


        PS I don't think it's possible to disable the Ignore function.
        OK
        no problem
        just a little frustrated thats all

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30253

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          OK
          no problem
          just a little frustrated thats all
          Hey, what do you think? He can see you posted something but the message is hidden. I wonder how often he has a peep?
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #6
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Hey, what do you think? He can see you posted something but the message is hidden. I wonder how often he has a peep?
            all the time French I suspect

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            • Simon

              #7
              Originally posted by french frank View Post

              MrGG - Only one person to my knowledge makes use of the Ignore facility and regularly reminds people that he can't see their posts because he's ignoring them (considered generally to be rather bad form).
              And there was me saying you were fair-minded! I occasionally mention it, on threads where non-regulars might wonder why I wasn't responding.

              Originally posted by french frank View Post

              We know who it is and I'm a bit surprised that you should be bothered, since if he did read your posts and respond to them I can't think it would add a great deal to the forum discussions.
              I too am a bit surprised that he should be bothered. We disagree on almost everything. I think his posts not worth my time and attention and I would expect - indeed, hope - that he thinks mine are likewise. I'm happy to post and discuss ideas with many people, some of whom I disagree strongly with, but who nonetheless are in my opinion capable of engaging in a debate that is worthwhile and intelligent. Those few whom I have on ignore would not, for me, fall into this category.

              So, using the "ignore" facility avoids the type of tit-for-tat threads that used to appear, which I'm sure were off-putting to many others. If you, as moderator and forum owner, would prefer me to take them off "ignore" then I'll certainly consider it and we'll see how it goes for a while. But as you suggest - a suggestion with which I am wholly in accord - the resulting posts would probably add little value to the MB. And I don't really have enough free time to spend it stating the obvious.

              [/QUOTE]

              Originally posted by french frank View Post

              PS I don't think it's possible to disable the Ignore function.
              Why should you wish to? (Though I realise that GG has asked you about it). It's available on most other MBs as far as I know, and it seems to work fine and avoids a lot of trouble.

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              • Simon

                #8
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Hey, what do you think? He can see you posted something but the message is hidden. I wonder how often he has a peep?
                Of course I can see when they post. It's only the texts that are hidden.

                That's one of the pleasures of the function! Like currently on the Dawkins Demolished thread, and on so many other "political" threads, one sees the same names coming up over and over again, post after post, and one thinks, possibly at times unfairly, but logically based on months of experience: "thank heaven I'm not wading through all that tripe!"

                As for "having a peep" - you can indeed view an individual hidden post without affecting the universal "ignore" state of its poster, and I have on rare occasions done so, when the post has obviously prompted some extreme reaction from another or been just one post within an otherwise reasonable and constructive thread. But, generally, I leave them unread.

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                • John Skelton

                  #9
                  If there's any point to being able to 'ignore' someone's posts it's precisely that: being able to ignore something "one" doesn't want to read.

                  The moment one draws attention to one's ignoring those posts one isn't doing anything of the sort - one is availing oneself of an opportunity for taunting. And in one's case one avails oneself of that opportunity over and over again, forcing anyone who doesn't want to blank out sections of a conversation by preemptively ignoring them to wade

                  Originally posted by Simon View Post
                  through all that tripe!
                  It's like a child in a temper who furiously informs you (sorry, one) I hate you and I'm not talking to you. Please stop it.

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #10
                    Originally posted by John Skelton View Post
                    If there's any point to being able to 'ignore' someone's posts it's precisely that: being able to ignore something "one" doesn't want to read.

                    The moment one draws attention to one's ignoring those posts one isn't doing anything of the sort - one is availing oneself of an opportunity for taunting. And in one's case one avails oneself of that opportunity over and over again, forcing anyone who doesn't want to blank out sections of a conversation by preemptively ignoring them to wade



                    It's like a child in a temper who furiously informs you (sorry, one) I hate you and I'm not talking to you. Please stop it.
                    Indeed
                    I really do feel that we shouldn't allow someone to have this special status
                    a great example of Christianity in action .......................not

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                    • John Skelton

                      #11
                      'Ignoring' a contributor seems daft to me, particularly as the person doing the ignoring would then have to ignore anyone who quotes from the ignored member if the original contributor is so intolerable, but it's there and that's the choice given. I'd be surprised if in most instances it gets used because the person can't stand to read what someone writes - rather it's a way of saying ostentatiously 'I'm making a point of ignoring you'. And saying it repetitively.

                      Not that my contribution above doesn't feed into the cycle, of course.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30253

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Simon View Post
                        As for "having a peep" - you can indeed view an individual hidden post without affecting the universal "ignore" state of its poster, and I have on rare occasions done so, when the post has obviously prompted some extreme reaction from another or been just one post within an otherwise reasonable and constructive thread. But, generally, I leave them unread.
                        Fine. Well, I suggest you shut up about your use of the Ignore function. And if you mention it again in any way I'll exclude you from Platform 3 altogether.

                        The boards haven't been set up for people to set up their opposing camps and throw things at each other, but for them to come together and discuss their differing views in an intelligent way.

                        I'm emailing this warning to you separately.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Simon

                          #13
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Fine. Well, I suggest you shut up about your use of the Ignore function. And if you mention it again in any way I'll exclude you from Platform 3 altogether.

                          The boards haven't been set up for people to set up their opposing camps and throw things at each other, but for them to come together and discuss their differing views in an intelligent way.

                          I'm emailing this warning to you separately.
                          Ok by me. I think you may have to give a few contributors lessons in discussing things in an intelligent way to achieve this, but it's your choice.

                          But in the interests of even-handedness (if indeed that does interest you anymore) you might just suggest to Amateur that he remove that silly pink line that says "if you quote from this message Simon will be able to see it" that I gather he's had on for ages. If that isn't drawing attention to the ignore thing, I don't know what is. Point taken?

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                          • amateur51

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Simon View Post
                            Ok by me. I think you may have to give a few contributors lessons in discussing things in an intelligent way to achieve this, but it's your choice.

                            But in the interests of even-handedness (if indeed that does interest you anymore) you might just suggest to Amateur that he remove that silly pink line that says "if you quote from this message Simon will be able to see it" that I gather he's had on for ages. If that isn't drawing attention to the ignore thing, I don't know what is. Point taken?
                            It was removed over 6 hours ago, Simon.

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                            • Anna

                              #15
                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              It was removed over 6 hours ago, Simon.
                              GOTCHA!!

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