Originally posted by Richard Barrett
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The Dictatorship of the Etonariat
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostThat is what is known as a lie
Because 100% of people didn't vote in any area
Or is it only those who vote who count ? which ignores a vast number of people who are too young etc etc
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Originally posted by CGR View PostThe result is the result is the result. Nothing anomalous about it. A majority of over 1.28 million votes. It didn't matter where the votes were cast, the referendum was a national vote.
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostYes, a mere advisory-only non-legally-binding public opinion poll in which most voters didn't have anything like sufficient information at hand to guide them towards making an intelligent and informed decision, two out of the four UK nations voted one way and the other two the other way and 16- and 17-year olds as well as all UK ex-pats were barred from voting altogether (despite the former having been entitled to vote in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum); very "democratic", I'm sure!...
Scotland, Wales and NI make up less than 15% of the UK population.
Children do not vote in UK elections.
The referendum vote was as about as democratic a decision as you could get.
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Originally posted by CGR View PostThat is the same as in any election. If you are eligible to vote and choose not to, don't complain about the result.
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Originally posted by CGR View PostThe Government delegated the decision to the British people: "This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide."
Scotland, Wales and NI make up less than 15% of the UK population.
Children do not vote in UK elections.
The referendum vote was as about as democratic a decision as you could get.
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Originally posted by CGR View PostThe Government delegated the decision to the British people: "This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide."
Originally posted by CGR View PostScotland, Wales and NI make up less than 15% of the UK population.
Originally posted by CGR View PostChildren do not vote in UK elections.
You omit reference to the ex-pats barred from voting.
Originally posted by CGR View PostThe referendum vote was as about as democratic a decision as you could get.
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostThe government can say what it likes (and frequently does). Nevertheless, the statute books make it clear that the referendum was non-binding, and no amount of of waffle can change that.
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John Locke
Originally posted by CGR View PostThe Government delegated the decision to the British people: "This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide."
Scotland, Wales and NI make up less than 15% of the UK population.
Children do not vote in UK elections.
The referendum vote was as about as democratic a decision as you could get.
As far as the 17.4m votes are concerned, 16.1m of them are plainly cancelled out by those who voted to Remain, leaving 1.3m voters out of an electorate of 46m and a population of 65m. Should that dog rump of 1.3m be allowed to wag the nation's dog?
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Originally posted by John Locke View PostLet us assume that the government had taken the commonsense step of establishing a quota for such a seismic change in the UK's relationship with its closest neighbours, for instance at least 55%. The Leave vote would have failed, but it would still have been 52%:48%. How then would Leavers have regarded the status of their vote? Would they have returned to their work, accepting that they had lost? Or would the British Winner-Takes-All mentality have taken over: we won, you lost. Our will must be accomplished.
As far as the 17.4m votes are concerned, 16.1m of them are plainly cancelled out by those who voted to Remain, leaving 1.3m voters out of an electorate of 46m and a population of 65m. Should that dog rump of 1.3m be allowed to wag the nation's dog?
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Originally posted by CGR View PostThe result stands. We voted to leave the EU.
The entire omnishambles has been a most divisive, expsneive and embarrassing exercise that has damaged relations with EU (which UK will need to maintain whether or not it leaves) and caused no end of harm to UK's international reputation that will take many years to heal.
So much for Clever-Clogs Cameron who launched it in the first place when there was not even any evidence of a desire among the UK electorate to review UK's continued EU membership (and no other UK party promised to address it in its 2015 GE manifesto). So much for "democratic Parliamentary process" (which of course was overriden by subjecting it to referendum).
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