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The Dictatorship of the Etonariat
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostLabour's position would be considerably improved by getting rid of these people
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makes a mockery of the whole "Tory Brexit" narrative
The BBC is in the business of entertainment... which is one of the main reasons why we have the Prime Minister we do , he makes good TV and (as RB said) why the odious Farage isn't confined to drunken ranting in his local pub........ what would help is MORE MEDIA STUDIES.... Marshall McLuhan must be spinning in his grave
This today
https://www.rhinegold.co.uk/classica...qJ1gR1dP6t0G-g
Labour could have imploded, but IMO they are still in their fighting for a good ( or least bad) outcome for working people, even if their tactics don't suite everybody's world view.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostThe way the far left infiltrated Labour through the registered supporters scheme and then after Corbyn was elected was his blueprint.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by teamsaint View PostLabour's electoral position would have been absolutely decimated by taking an unconditional " Remain" stance post referendum, leaving the tories an even clearer run at whatever calamities they want to visit on working people. And many Labour members and voters support leave. They can't square that circle by just wanting Leave to go away, even if that is what their remainers would like.
Labour could have imploded, but IMO they are still in their fighting for a good ( or least bad) outcome for working people, even if their tactics don't suite everybody's world view.
Leaving the EU will cause most hardship to those the Labour party claims to care about
It's very clear that those in charge of the Labour party care more about their party than they do about the country.
And apart from the "working people" what about those who are unable to work ?
Chucking away their rights to appease the Marxist debating society faction.
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
Leaving the EU will cause most hardship to those the Labour party claims to care about
It's very clear that those in charge of the Labour party care more about their party than they do about the country.
And apart from the "working people" what about those who are unable to work ?
Chucking away their rights to appease the Marxist debating society faction.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostThe way the far left infiltrated Labour through the registered supporters scheme and then after Corbyn was elected was his blueprint.
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostExactly
It really is so boring to be disabled or unable to work
Ignoring the whole party political thing is a perfectly valid response from those who care about such things , but so is supporting the party that that historically supports those groups best.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by LMcD View PostDidn't she tell Andrew Maar that she'd resigned the whip but wasn't leaving the party?
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostI don't know, but her letter of resignation appears to clarify that she has indeed done so - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49623727 .
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostWhat her resignation letter makes clear is that she is declining the Conservative whip in the House of Commons. There is no indication that she has resigned from, or intends to resign from the Conservative Party. The whip treats with parliamentary voting activity, not party membership.
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostWhat her resignation letter makes clear is that she is declining the Conservative whip in the House of Commons. There is no indication that she has resigned from, or intends to resign from the Conservative Party. The whip treats with parliamentary voting activity, not party membership.
After days of agonising over her political future, Amber Rudd knew she would resign as a cabinet minister and a member of the Conservative party on Wednesday night.
A Downing Street spokesman said: "We are disappointed to learn that Amber has chosen to leave government and the party.
I read somewhere that she mentioned joining an independent Conservative party - is that what was meant by 'self-servative' in an earlier post?
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostThat doesn't really follow, it could just as easily mean they're doing a lousy job overall. But the BBC's constant highlighting of the unelected Farage (appearances on Today, QT etc. etc. etc.) is a matter of record, as is its shabby treatment of Corbyn.Originally posted by teamsaint View PostTwo wrongs don't make a right.
I'm not sure what you mean by the BBC's shabby treatment of Corbyn. He doesn't help himself, clearly doesn't like being interviewed (or indeed questioned) - I remember his car-crash interview with the excellent Emma Barnett, which was down to his being poorly prepared. He just isn't very good at it. Being charmless and humourless doesn't help (see also Theresa May). McDonnell comes across very well on TV. It's part of the job these days. I agree Farage has been over-exposed, but I didn't think this was down to the BBC's being pro-Brexit - is it? I never watch Question Time.
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Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostI agree Farage has been over-exposed, but I didn't think this was down to the BBC's being pro-Brexit - is it? I never watch Question Time.
No I don't think the BBC is pro-Brexit, but in the interests of ratings (presumably) they give a lot of publicity to people who are, which surely goes against their principle of impartiality. With regard to Corbyn, my personal view is that politicians oughtn't to need to be showmen (I would, rather unfashionably, prefer them to be people of integrity), and making this "part of the job" is again something the BBC might be held responsible for to a significant degree.
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