It’s so depressing. Large parts of the electorate don’t care. Horrid to consider but it’s true. Then consider the effect of the first past the post system. Add in that Tory and Labour will flip flop over a 5 week campaign and there will surely be some quite disgusting xenophobia deployed on both sides, and who knows what the result will be. I would exhort everyone to knock on doors to get the vote out, however that vote may go, but my MP has, literally, 80% of the vote so I will not be on the stump personally and it would be churlish at the very least to ask others to do so.
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Originally posted by muzzer View PostIt’s so depressing. Large parts of the electorate don’t care. Horrid to consider but it’s true. Then consider the effect of the first past the post system. Add in that Tory and Labour will flip flop over a 5 week campaign and there will surely be some quite disgusting xenophobia deployed on both sides, and who knows what the result will be. I would exhort everyone to knock on doors to get the vote out, however that vote may go, but my MP has, literally, 80% of the vote so I will not be on the stump personally and it would be churlish at the very least to ask others to do so.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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And let's take a guess about Ken Clarke at Rushcliffe - Tory, brutally de-whipped, HUGELY popular, experienced, Remainer par excellence, but supposing he stands as an Independent? Can you see him NOT winning?
And my guess is that this could well be replicated in a number of constituencies, don't you?
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Originally posted by DracoM View PostAnd let's take a guess about Ken Clarke at Rushcliffe - Tory, brutally de-whipped, HUGELY popular, experienced, Remainer par excellence, but supposing he stands as an Independent? Can you see him NOT winning?
And my guess is that this could well be replicated in a number of constituencies, don't you?
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Originally posted by muzzer View PostI consider the anti semitism in the Labour Party a form of xenophobia fwiw.
Also fwiw, it really is beyond belief that the tories can make hay on this issue. But they are showing their true colours right now. Very unpleasant stuff going on.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by Joseph K View PostI will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by teamsaint View PostIf there is xenophobia deployed , it will all be from the right.
I don't buy the "antisemtism" smear
BUT there are plenty of folks on the "left" of politics who's rabid opposition to the EU couldn't be seen as anything but xenophobic
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostThat was then. Campaign slogan noticed on FB: "His own brother doesn't trust him - why should you?"
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Originally posted by teamsaint View PostThe lib dems might win a lot more seats, in fact thats a certainty. But they are going to be miles behind the big two in seats. The best they can hope for is to be the junior partner in a coalition, or the largest of a group of junior partners.
There are a lot of lessons to be learned from all this, and good may yet come of it. Whatever happens, we as a nation really need to learn to respect others’ beliefs and opinions, because, like our own, they are just that. Beliefs, not absolute truths. And we have seen too clearly what happens when we don’t.
( IMO , if they get their act together, the lib dems , Labour and / or the Scots have a good chance of forming a government, especially if they give the tories a couple of weeks more rope).
My Mum used to say "Never discuss religion or politics with friends. You are likely to lose them". Wise words.
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