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The Dictatorship of the Etonariat
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Originally posted by Tony View PostA total waste of time
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostIt isn't a total waste of time at all, it's a way of getting an idea of how people feel about this issue which hopefully will embolden those who actually can do something about it; it's the only way that anyone's voice is going to be heard at this point; it's a way of expressing solidarity with one's fellow human beings; just for starters.
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If I had to guess how the tories are gaming this, I would think that they are looking at three scenarios .
1. The anti no dealers help to force an early election , ( people vs parliament) which they think they can win .
2.If that somehow doesn't happen, after a bit of negotiation with the EU, Johnson re -presents the May WA dressed up to look more like a hog than a pig, and hopes that the by then freaked out soft centre ( Kinnock etc, and all the other Labour MPs in leave areas who are terrified of losing their seats ) vote for it in big enough numbers to offset the really extreme ERG ers ( 30 or so ?) who will still vote against it.
3. Failing all that, they really do take us out with a no deal, and try to organise some sort of short term transition deal ( on the back of economic downturn both n Europe and the UK) and hope that they don't get slaughtered at the polls for the next 20 years.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by johnb View PostI don't think any of this is real.
It must be strange dystopian riff on The Truman Show intended to entertain the masses.
Anything else is incomprehensible.
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostSome good may come of this mess after all!
1 sought a meeting of the full Privy Council
2 referred the question to the Judicial Committee to assess its lawfulness under Section 4 Judicial Committee Act 1833
3 granted only a short period before the Queen’s Speech most recent prorogations have been between 1-2 weeks .
She has been dragged into politics and is now facing accusations from some that she is pro Brexit and seeking to divert attention from the scandal surrounding her son . I think this is the beginning of the end.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostShe has been very badly advised . She has today probably signedvthe death warrant of the monarchy and the Union - she could have
1 sought a meeting of the full Privy Council
2 referred the question to the Judicial Committee to assess its lawfulness under Section 4 Judicial Committee Act 1833
3 granted only a short period before the Queen’s Speech most recent prorogations have been between 1-2 weeks .
She has been dragged into politics and is now facing accusations from some that she is pro Brexit and seeking to divert attention from the scandal surrounding her son . I think this is the beginning of the end.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostShe has been very badly advised . She has today probably signedvthe death warrant of the monarchy and the Union - she could have
1 sought a meeting of the full Privy Council
2 referred the question to the Judicial Committee to assess its lawfulness under Section 4 Judicial Committee Act 1833
3 granted only a short period before the Queen’s Speech most recent prorogations have been between 1-2 weeks .
She has been dragged into politics and is now facing accusations from some that she is pro Brexit and seeking to divert attention from the scandal surrounding her son . I think this is the beginning of the end.
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostBear in mind that approximately 63% of the electorate did not vote to leave the European Union. 37% of the electorate (less than 27% of the population) voting to leave does not constitute 'the will of the people'.
But if we're going to be objective, this is a flawed argument! As the pie chart shows, 63% of the electorate did indeed not (explicitly) vote Leave, but by exactly the same yardstick 65% did not explicitly vote Remain. So on this argument the Leavers have it, as one can hardly count the 12.95m non-voters as default Remainers (or Leavers). Perhaps if they had taken more interest and voted, we would now be in a very different situation.
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