Originally posted by Bella Kemp
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The Dictatorship of the Etonariat
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostLip-readers supporting both interpretations were found at the time.
This article from the time doesn't seem unreasonable - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46619689
I saw the original debate live, and I really did think that he did say "stupid woman" - though now the ony thing we can say with some reasonable certainty is that he did call someone or some group stupid. Not very flattering, but not necessarily a direct personal attack.
I also thought that a modicum of explanation and/or apology at the time would have defused that fairly easily, but he didn't seem willing to do that.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostThat's a good satirical post - based on it you should easily get a job with the Daily Mail, Daily Express, the Sun or the Telegraph. You have to do better than that though, if you are to convince your late father, who as a real Labour supporter would remind you that the so called newspapers who pedal all this unsubstantiated stuff about Corbyn wanting to overthrow capitalism were and always have been propaganda sheets for the Tories. As a loyal member of the intelligentsia, I would be delighted were he or anyone else in the business of overthrowing capitalism; as it is I know that a whole organised movement of labour would need to be involved for that to happen, the likelihood of which doesn't seem very probable 30 years on from the Thatcher government's dismantlement of the wealth creating manufacturing sector and permanent ruination of whole communities north of Watford. In fact, as anybody will tell you, the intended incoming Corbyn-led Labour government's plans are in fact not dissimilar to those of the postwar Attlee government, a real Labour government which your dad, as a real labour supporter, would have helped vote in.
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Originally posted by Joseph K View Postteamsaint was referring to himself, no?
My misreading .... corrected by deletion
(though my comment about the "real world" still stands for those who read it before it went )Last edited by MrGongGong; 10-09-19, 07:36.
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I have no interest in the ideologies and principles are easily shed when it suits, but I can't help feeling that it's time to let Labour have a go at running the country. They won't make a better job of it, but at least it'll be a slightly different(possibly) mess, and it would then be possible to compare the realities of the binary apology for democracy. At the moment it's all speculation, and as far as this cynical voter is concerned there seems very little difference between the two parties in many respects - leaders who destructively split opinion, deepseated internal differences, country comes third in the line-up after party and self interest.
Labour's spending plans can't be funded seems to be a common criticism - well I can't see where Messrs Johnson and Javid are getting the billions they are currently bribing the voters with, and the only plan behind it is life support for the Tory Party.
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Originally posted by teamsaint View Post10 years of austerity budgets
10 years of stagnant wages.
A housing crisis for the young.
National division over Europe.
Several appalling military interventions.
An unexplained productivity problem.
Disastrous underfunding of local government.
Essential services sold off , often to non uk businesses.
An infrastructure crisis UK wide.
Skyrocketing education costs for young people.
Etc etc etc.
Nothing to do with Corbyn, everything to do with Tories. Lib Dems, and Blairite policies.
Corbyn , if elected, will be the one sorting out their mess.
( Not from a member of the “ intelligentsia with no experience of the real world” , but from someone who has spent almost their whole working life at the sharp end of the real world of business)
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Originally posted by Bella Kemp View Postit's just a pity that Mr Corbyn has divided us and split our party.
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Originally posted by Dave2002 View PostMaybe it tastes different if you don’t whip the cream.
What's been (not) happening on Parliament has, thanks to the Old Etonians, been pretty Harrowing for the rest of us.
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostMore craic than crack, surely?
'Laughter is the best medicine'. Rarely has this been more the case.
The people who are REALLY going to suffer are satirists, as they surely can't come up with anything to match the shenanigans of recent weeks, topped off as they have now been by the awarding of honours to those who helped the previous PM fail to achieve her principal objective.
'No Brexit means gongs'.
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