The Dictatorship of the Etonariat

[Richard Tarleton]

Well, her majority at the last GE was so small that her lights might have been put out at the next one anyway...

She's said she isn't standing there again anyway. Not out of the question she may go for Nicholas Soames's seat, as he isn't standing again.

[un barbu]

'Who's in, who's out' in Parliament doesn't much concern me. I'm afraid my concerns anent Brexit are very personal as, like Felix Randal, I have 'some/fatal (possibly in my case if they were to go horribly agley)four disorders fleshed there.' I try to maintain all the serenity of a Taoist sage as I read of impending shortages of medicines but it ain't easy.

[ahinton]

She's said she isn't standing there again anyway. Not out of the question she may go for Nicholas Soames's seat, as he isn't standing again.

But she's also resigned from the party so, if she does that, she presumably will not be standing as a Self-servative.

[oddoneout]

But she's also resigned from the party so, if she does that, she presumably will not be standing as a Self-servative.

Oh I don't know about that; old habits die hard.

[ahinton]

Oh I don't know about that; old habits die hard.

!!!

[Serial_Apologist]

That blogger, another angry voice, has written brilliantly on "performative stupidity" on the attached link (second item down) - namely, the faux incomprehension of BBC and other interviewers in the broadcasting media when it comes to conveying Labour's Brexit tactics. Glad to discover I'm not the only one who's been noticing this more and more recently, and finding myself screaming at the radio, because there's definitely something sinister going on here:

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com

[cloughie]

That blogger, another angry voice, has written brilliantly on "performative stupidity" on the attached link (second item down) - namely, the faux incomprehension of BBC and other interviewers in the broadcasting media when it comes to conveying Labour's Brexit tactics. Glad to discover I'm not the only one who's been noticing this more and more recently, and finding myself screaming at the radio, because there's definitely something sinister going on here:

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com

Are all local Conservative associations totally in tune, or just blindly obeying orders from HQ, when it comes to the deselection and banning of the elected members with who they have had a good relationship over the years, or have the moderate one-nation tory officials been also removed. Independents standing against new righties and Brexit candidates may serve other parties very well in a GE.
I guess there must be some discomfort

[Richard Tarleton]

the faux incomprehension of BBC and other interviewers in the broadcasting media when it comes to conveying Labour's Brexit tactics.

S_A I'm sure hard line Brexiteers think exactly the same. When Simon McCoy was interviewing Steve Baker of the ERG about their current stance the other day the latter exploded that this was typical of the BBC. Simon McCoy patiently explained that the BBC gets this all the time, what he was doing was putting the question to him and giving him the opportunity to reply/explain. Whilst Labour's position makes perfect sense and is founded on well-placed mistrust, it has been tortuously arrived at to cover up deep divisions in the party (nothing wrong with that, the DUP, LibDems, Plaid and Greens are the only ones without such divisions), and it's the interviewer's job to interrogate it, not to be sympathetically understanding. If both sides are complaining, the BBC must be doing a reasonable job.

[LMcD]

But she's also resigned from the party so, if she does that, she presumably will not be standing as a Self-servative.

Didn't she tell Andrew Maar that she'd resigned the whip but wasn't leaving the party?

[DracoM]

<< Are all local Conservative associations totally in tune, or just blindly obeying orders from HQ, when it comes to the deselection and banning of the elected members with who they have had a good relationship over the years, or have the moderate one-nation tory officials been also removed >>

Have to say that this is what worries me too. For years, local associations apparently support a candidate, and then voila! bang, they're out, and disowned by that association. Why? Is it the PARTY they support blindly under any circs, or their own chosen representative? Or what?

[Bryn]

<< Are all local Conservative associations totally in tune, or just blindly obeying orders from HQ, when it comes to the deselection and banning of the elected members with who they have had a good relationship over the years, or have the moderate one-nation tory officials been also removed >>

Have to say that this is what worries me too. For years, ;local associations support a candidate, and then voila! bang, they're out, and disowned by that association. Why?

If the local association here is anything to go by, there has been a considerable influx of entrists from the likes of UKIP and the Brexit Party of late. Now they have no MP sitting under their banner. I don't see the now LibDem MP holding the seat in the forthcoming General Election.

[DracoM]

So Dominic Cummings really is the blueprint for how you subvert and exploit a group?

[Richard Barrett]

If both sides are complaining, the BBC must be doing a reasonable job.

That doesn't really follow, it could just as easily mean they're doing a lousy job overall. But the BBC's constant highlighting of the unelected Farage (appearances on Today, QT etc. etc. etc.) is a matter of record, as is its shabby treatment of Corbyn.

[teamsaint]

S_A I'm sure hard line Brexiteers think exactly the same. When Simon McCoy was interviewing Steve Baker of the ERG about their current stance the other day the latter exploded that this was typical of the BBC. Simon McCoy patiently explained that the BBC gets this all the time, what he was doing was putting the question to him and giving him the opportunity to reply/explain. Whilst Labour's position makes perfect sense and is founded on well-placed mistrust, it has been tortuously arrived at to cover up deep divisions in the party (nothing wrong with that, the DUP, LibDems, Plaid and Greens are the only ones without such divisions), and it's the interviewer's job to interrogate it, not to be sympathetically understanding. If both sides are complaining, the BBC must be doing a reasonable job.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Labour's position really is easy enough to understand, but the BBC like soundbites , and binary choices, from what I hear.

As a suggestion, Labour might help themselves if they suggested sending an all party group to negotiate a new deal, which they would then be prepared to campaign against if they felt that Remain looked a better option than the newly negotiated deal .

Incidentally I'm not sure that Labour's position is so much to cover up, as to deal with their divisions. Absolutely nobody thinks that Labour are unified on this.

[MrGongGong]

Two wrongs don't make a right. Labour's position really is easy enough to understand, but the BBC like soundbites , and binary choices, from what I hear.

As a suggestion, Labour might help themselves if they suggested sending an all party group to negotiate a new deal, which they would then be prepared to campaign against if they felt that Remain looked a better option than the newly negotiated deal .

Incidentally I'm not sure that Labour's position is so much to cover up, as to deal with their divisions. Absolutely nobody thinks that Labour are unified on this.

Labour's position would be considerably improved by getting rid of these people

https://www.labourleave.org.uk

makes a mockery of the whole "Tory Brexit" narrative

The BBC is in the business of entertainment... which is one of the main reasons why we have the Prime Minister we do , he makes good TV and (as RB said) why the odious Farage isn't confined to drunken ranting in his local pub........ what would help is MORE MEDIA STUDIES.... Marshall McLuhan must be spinning in his grave


This today

https://www.rhinegold.co.uk/classical_music/soundfestival-finale-threatened-by-brexit-say-organisers/?fbclid=IwAR09MBcFDuQxwBBUGHOS89w9tcEFlS-1ArWS7ugKdeo1tqJ1gR1dP6t0G-g