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  • ahinton
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    • Nov 2010
    • 16122

    Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
    ....i think there is going to be instability beyond that which can be forseen....and it will not necessarily be seen on the streets and Media....it will be quietly happening in the homes of the unemployed and mental health facilities, food banks....it will be sad and grey and dreadfully dreadfully boring....it has all been played out like a parlour game .....
    I'd struggle to disagree with most of that...

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    • Pulcinella
      Host
      • Feb 2014
      • 10891

      Originally posted by ahinton View Post
      I'd struggle to disagree with most of that...
      Me too, apart, perhaps, from changing 'boring' to 'tragic'.

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      • LMcD
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        • Sep 2017
        • 8409

        Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
        ....i think there is going to be instability beyond that which can be forseen....and it will not necessarily be seen on the streets and Media....it will be quietly happening in the homes of the unemployed and mental health facilities, food banks....it will be sad and grey and dreadfully dreadfully boring....it has all been played out like a parlour game .....
        I WISH I could convince myself that you're wrong, but I strongly suspect that you will be proved right. Perhaps 'they' are hoping that the decline will be so slow and steady that 'we' won't notice as we queue for fresh vegetables and watch our loved ones suffer and die prematurely through lack of care.
        It may be just a coincidence - or a sign of things to come - that this morning I found in a charity shop a book by Hunter Davies called 'The Co-Op's Got Bananas!. (NO comments about banana republics please).

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        • eighthobstruction
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 6432

          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
          Me too, apart, perhaps, from changing 'boring' to 'tragic'.
          ....yep, 'tragic' more apt....
          bong ching

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          • Conchis
            Banned
            • Jun 2014
            • 2396

            I see my earlier post, responding to Vodkadilc has been removed by the house Gauleiter.
            Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 04-09-19, 19:12.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              Originally posted by Conchis View Post
              I see my earlier post, responding to Vodkadilc has been removed by the house Gauleiter.
              ???? If you mean your #251, it's still there and AFAIK, always has been. (Hint: try turning the page. Back.)
              Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 04-09-19, 19:12.
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Cockney Sparrow
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                • Jan 2014
                • 2283

                Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                I see my earlier post, responding to Vodkadildo has been removed by the house Gauleiter.
                Are you sure - I don't hang on your every word/post (sorry) but I think one respose from you is still there upthread.

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22115

                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  ???? If you mean your #251, it's still there and AFAIK, always has been. (Hint: try turning the page. Back.)
                  #237 still there also, but such posts deserve removal.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37595

                    Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                    ....i think there is going to be instability beyond that which can be forseen....and it will not necessarily be seen on the streets and Media....it will be quietly happening in the homes of the unemployed and mental health facilities, food banks....it will be sad and grey and dreadfully dreadfully boring....it has all been played out like a parlour game .....
                    This is why the representive parliamentary politics, placing a cross on a ballot paper every few years, has always been inadequate, and why the disempowered should be drawn into radical political activity, the way some of us were back in the 1970s. It is while they are engaged that the habitually excluded can offer otherwise unrecognised and under-utilised skills and abilities or see them encouraged and developed. The future will be less wasteful and more acknowledging of everyone's right to be included by having something to offer that present-day throwaway values may not accommodate.

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                    • eighthobstruction
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6432

                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      This is why the representive parliamentary politics, placing a cross on a ballot paper every few years, has always been inadequate, and why the disempowered should be drawn into radical political activity, the way some of us were back in the 1970s. It is while they are engaged that the habitually excluded can offer otherwise unrecognised and under-utilised skills and abilities or have them encouraged and developed.
                      ....yes + WEA
                      bong ching

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                      • eighthobstruction
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6432

                        ....it is amazing that some MPs are still calling the 29thMarch TMay Deal as worthy of consideration....get with it I say SNAP SNAP....
                        bong ching

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37595

                          Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                          ....yes + WEA
                          The top-down, vote-us-in and then leave-it-all-to-us model of socialism inherited from Fabianism has been terribly detrimental to the reputation of the left. And probably part-responsible for the popularity of the idea of share ownership Thatcher introduced as a subtle divisive means of tying worker loyalty to the employer.
                          Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 04-09-19, 21:56. Reason: Part - not holy Estonian minimalist composer

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37595

                            Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                            ....it is amazing that some MPs are still calling the 29thMarch TMay Deal as worthy of consideration....get with it I say SNAP SNAP....
                            It may be what BoJo gets away with in the end, dressed up to appear different.

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25195

                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              It may be what BoJo gets away with in the end, dressed up to appear different.
                              This does seem to be the path of least resistance.

                              Perhaps the election will happen, and a progressive government with a real programme of reform will be elected.
                              Stranger things have happened.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • Richard Barrett
                                Guest
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 6259

                                Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                                I see my earlier post, responding to Vodkadildo has been removed by the house Gauleiter.
                                If you actually want this discussion to be able to continue, I suggest you give this sort of talk a rest.

                                S_A: yes, for a political system to be called democratic it has to involve more participation, which means it has to be clear that participation is meaningful and not just sterile drudgery, and people need to be empowered by being well-informed and possessed of the time and energy to become engaged. (I would hope that this kind of idea is what's behind something like Momentum.) Reducing the voting age to 16 would also help.

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