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Chomsky on Trump
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Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View PostThe poor and many of the terminally ill aren't profitable. QED?I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by jean View PostBut TTIP did not benefit Europe - it benefitted no-one but the multibnationals whose profits were protected at the expense of national governments. It was opposition from the French particularly that sank it.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostIt wasn't so much a defence of TTIP as to point out that a US-UK deal stood very little chance of being better/different as far as the UK was concerned.
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostHowever, Trump sees that the May government is desperate to get any kind of trade deal with the US so he'll put her at the front of the queue for something that will make TTIP look tame.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post. . . Obviously May et al aren't in the least concerned that this will involve handing over the NHS to US corporate interests, and creating the possibility for multinationals to sue any future UK government that tries to renationalise anything. As I said, Brexit and Trump is a poisonous cocktail.My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)
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Wait - you forgot Make Russia Great Again.
Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostMake America great again.
Make Britain great again.
Make France great again.
Make Germany great again.
Sounds ominous to me.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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In a sane, sensible world Brexit would now be dead in the water before it even got a chance to swim.
Suddenly, Europe now finds itself trapped between two wholly self-interested, narcissistic bullies and this is the very time that it should be uniting not dividing.
Far-seeing Europeans have always seen the likelihood of this happening at some time which was the whole point of moves towards an United States of Europe in the first place.
Mrs May and the Tory Party (with the usual honourable exception of Ken Clarke) clearly live in a dream world imagining the UK can turn the clock back to the days of Empire. Most of the Labour Party now seems to have hoisted the white flag and are prepared to succumb to the 'will of the people' rather than being guided by their previously oft-stated personal convictions.
Apart from the SNP and some associated smaller parties who have their own separate political agendas, the Lib Dems are the only group prepared to stand up to this naive, self-defeating populism at the moment and I applaud them for it. I never thought I would ever say that!
Sadly, I fear the damage has already been done and the UK, at best, is now destined to be a miserable little client-state of the US instead of an important major member of a strong and self-reliant Europe.
In fact, as some warned before the Referendum, a 'No' vote might well result in the disintegration of the UK itself and who would confidently bet against that now?
Brexit Means Decline & Total Irrelevance ...
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I learnt two things this week which I feel sure most people still do not know. One, Trump has been made bankrupt four or six times depending on viewpoint. Two, under existing EU legislation, the UK could tell all EU immigrants to leave the UK after being here for just three months. That doesn't suggest to me (a) Trump is a great businessman and (b) UK governments have been terribly constrained by the EU on immigration. Clearly post-truth is not an especially new phenomenon. I was flabbergasted when I heard both these things.
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