Separated at birth ?

[gurnemanz]

I have the greatest of admiration for Mr Quentin Letts if only that he is his own man and has complete contempt for pseudo-fascist Political Correctness.

In the same way I have the greatest admiration for Ms Germaine Greer if only that she is her own lady and has complete contempt for pseudo-fascist Political Correctness.

I salute them both!

I enjoy reading Letts' reviews on line and have usually found them to be entertaining and sometimes provocative but not a useful guide as to whether a production is worth seeing or not.

The term "pseudo-fascist" makes no sense to me here, since it would surely mean "having pretensions to be fascist", ie not genuinely fascist at all. To use Political Correctness capitalised, ie as a proper noun, would imply reference to a named organisation, which, as far as I know, doesn't exist.

Personally, I would not salute anyone who had "complete" contempt for political correctness, rather than having the discernment to decide which examples of political correctness are worthy of contempt and which actually represent an enlightened approach to avoiding language and behaviour which might give offence to others.

[Serial_Apologist]

You want to think about the crap you write sometimes.

That was when we disagreed. I thought you'd changed... must have been the other Beef Oven.

[Serial_Apologist]

Indeed, it doesn't matter where on the political spectrum these people are, what's important is that they have the courage to say what they are thinking and are not interested in what's 'expected' of them.

That just about sums up your average bully.

[Serial_Apologist]

The Guardian was invented for Guardian readers, more fool you for not spotting that.

Which means absolutely nothing.

[Beef Oven!]

That just about sums up your average bully.

Non-Sequitur of the day. Still time left, I suppose.

[Beef Oven!]

That was when we disagreed. I thought you'd changed... must have been the other Beef Oven.

Moving past your gibberish, if you want to start the personal sarcastic remarks as per your post #16, then I'll chuck some back your way. Up to you buddy, you started it.

[Beef Oven!]

Which means absolutely nothing.

Like this entire thread, which was probably set up to get us where we find ourselves now.

[Serial_Apologist]

Moving past your gibberish, if you want to start the personal sarcastic remarks as per your post #16, then I'll chuck some back your way. Up to you buddy, you started it.

If you really think my saying that you write rhetoric is a personal sarcastic remark, then you are even more thin-skinned than I thought, and only capable of chucking things.

[Beef Oven!]

If you really think my saying that you write rhetoric is a personal sarcastic remark, then you are even more thin-skinned than I thought, and only capable of chucking things.

There you go again - put a sock in it bruv!

[P. G. Tipps]

I enjoy reading Letts' reviews on line and have usually found them to be entertaining and sometimes provocative but not a useful guide as to whether a production is worth seeing or not.

The term "pseudo-fascist" makes no sense to me here, since it would surely mean "having pretensions to be fascist", ie not genuinely fascist at all. To use Political Correctness capitalised, ie as a proper noun, would imply reference to a named organisation, which, as far as I know, doesn't exist.

Personally, I would not salute anyone who had "complete" contempt for political correctness, rather than having the discernment to decide which examples of political correctness are worthy of contempt and which actually represent an enlightened approach to avoiding language and behaviour which might give offence to others.

Political Correctness ... even if sometimes 'correct' ... couldn't possibly be supported by those of a genuinely independent mind.

'PC' is a common abbreviation for a modern political and social attitude. Nobody refers to it as 'pc'.

Therefore you are being quite illogical but I defend to the death your right to be so, sir!

[jean]

'PC' is a common abbreviation for a modern political and social attitude. Nobody refers to it as 'pc'.

Sensible people don't refer to it at all. Nobody on this thread did so until you dragged it in.

Much better to consider, in gurnemanz's excellent formulation,

...an enlightened approach to avoiding language and behaviour which might give offence to others.

[P. G. Tipps]

Sensible people don't refer to it at all. Nobody on this thread did so until you dragged it in.

Much better to consider, in gurnemanz's excellent formulation,

Ah, the modern 'liberal' mind ... so all-embracing, so tolerant of like-minded 'sensible' people but rightly despising those differently-minded 'repulsive' people ...

[Barbirollians]

Political correctness is an Aunt Sally largely invented by bigots to excuse their own bad behaviour - Clarkson being a prime offender.

[visualnickmos]

Political correctness is an Aunt Sally largely invented by bigots to excuse their own bad behaviour - Clarkson being a prime offender.

Voila. In a nutshell. Perfectly put.

[P. G. Tipps]

Political correctness is an Aunt Sally largely invented by bigots to excuse their own bad behaviour - Clarkson being a prime offender.

You keep referring to 'bigots', my friend.

There is only one member here who opened this thread and described another perfectly normal and intelligent human being as 'ghastly'. Another described him as 'repulsive'.

It is not so much that such insulting terms strike me as being particularly remarkable or even unwelcome ... in fact it can only confirm to those who disagree that they are almost certainly right ... but the naked hypocrisy and accusations of 'bad behaviour' and 'bigotry' when those insults are challenged.

On reflection, jean is probably right, though not in the way she meant. A 'sensible' person would never have bothered contributing to this quite bizarre thread in the first place.

Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa!