Paris, anyone?

[teamsaint]

Who indeed knows? class.......dodgy area !!

is the rise in antisemitism something that is actually apparent to you in London?

[Beef Oven!]

Who indeed knows? class.......dodgy area !!

is the rise in antisemitism something that is actually apparent to you in London?

Across Europe is my gut instinct.

[Richard Barrett]

Some Muslims no doubt are not anxious, while others no doubt are. But whatever anecdotes might be adduced in support of one view or another, nobody should in a civilised country in the 21st century be worried about being attacked on account of what someone else of their religion/culture has done. The rest of Europe was quick to rehabilitate ordinary Germans after the Second World War, even though far worse things had been done by Germans; but then they weren't racially or culturally different of course.

[teamsaint]

Across Europe is my gut instinct.

Would you say that there is a greater rise in anti semitism than in other forms of intolerance?

My gut reaction , fwiw, is that anti semitism is a much easier and safer areas for politicians to deal with, for the obvious reasons, than other types of prejudice and discrimination.
I havent heard much from whitehall politicians highlighting the anxieties in the Muslim community.

Edit..and just to address RBs point about anecdotal reference, I do think it can be instructive,but obviously needs using sensitively.

[Beef Oven!]

Would you say that there is a greater rise in anti semitism than in other forms of intolerance?

Hard to say. My gut feel is that anti-semitism is on the rise. Been quite a few attacks on Jews in the last few years, more than I remember there being.

My gut reaction , fwiw, is that anti semitism is a much easier and safer areas for politicians to deal with, for the obvious reasons, than other types of prejudice and discrimination.

Obvious reasons? What are they?

I havent heard much from whitehall politicians highlighting the anxieties in the Muslim community.

I think that Jews have been singled out, not muslims. That could be the reason for your perception about Whitehall politicians.

[teamsaint]

K

Hard to say. My gut feel is that anti-semitism is on the rise. Been quite a few attacks on Jews in the last few years, more than I remember there being.



Obvious reasons? What are they?

The Holocaust.



I think that Jews have been singled out, not muslims. That could be the reason for your perception about Whitehall politicians.

Could be . Or perhaps they are following a particular narrative, or taking an easy route.
i dont know their motives, and I dont know how far Muslim/Jewish communities are in fact suffering attacks and experiencing anxiety.
but I do know that politicians need questions asking ofnthem, about their actions and motivations.

[Beef Oven!]

K
Could be . Or perhaps they are following a particular narrative, or taking an easy route.
i dont know their motives, and I dont know how far Muslim/Jewish communities are in fact suffering attacks and experiencing anxiety.
but I do know that politicians need questions asking ofnthem, about their actions and motivations.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30924276

[MrGongGong]

is the rise in antisemitism something that is actually apparent to you in London?

If you had (as happened to a Jewish friend of mine) been canvassed for the 'survey' that supposedly showed this and was recently widely reported in the press. You might be as furious as he is (and he did get a letter read out on R4 about it) that the supposed 'research' was nothing of the sort and a pile of leading questions badly put together.
Which DOESN'T mean that this isn't a problem at all merely that ALL crimes against people from this community can be labelled as such.

The problem with 'gut instinct' is that it's often little more than 'received wisdom'

[Richard Barrett]

The problem with 'gut instinct' is that it's often little more than 'received wisdom'

I was going to say that but you beat me to it. Anyway, gut feelings (and personal anecdotes) shouldn't be used as a substitute for facts. What are the facts with regard to antisemitic attacks in the UK? It wouldn't surprise me if they were increasing; fear and/or loathing of "the other" seems to have become an increasingly accepted part of political discourse, whether it's immigrants or poor people, in many parts of Europe.

[Beef Oven!]

If you had (as happened to a Jewish friend of mine) been canvassed for the 'survey' that supposedly showed this and was recently widely reported in the press. You might be as furious as he is (and he did get a letter read out on R4 about it) that the supposed 'research' was nothing of the sort and a pile of leading questions badly put together.
Which DOESN'T mean that this isn't a problem at all merely that ALL crimes against people from this community can be labelled as such.

Nah, my instincts are good on this one.

The problem with 'gut instinct' is that it's often little more than 'received wisdom'

Speak for yourself, yours might be, but mine never are.

[P. G. Tipps]

'Gut Instinct' is sometimes our only means of getting at the truth and is based on our previous personal experience of human nature and behaviour. It is the very opposite of 'received wisdom' which is often simplistic nonsense originally emanating from the mouths of social-engineering propagandists and which, therefore, invariably turns out to be completely false.

Of course 'gut instinct' might occasionally let us down, but, as it's based on actual life-experience rather than popular narrative, it has an awful lot more going for it.

Thank goodness for 'gut instinct'!

[Bryn]

Gut instinct is to process food and the end resulting product is expelled and in most developed societies gets flushed away.

[MrGongGong]

'Gut Instinct' is sometimes our only means of getting at the truth and is based on our previous personal experience of human nature and behaviour. It is the very opposite of 'received wisdom' which is often simplistic nonsense originally emanating from the mouths of social-engineering propagandists and which, therefore, invariably turns out to be completely false.

Of course 'gut instinct' might occasionally let us down, but, as it's based on actual life-experience rather than popular narrative, it has an awful lot more going for it.

Thank goodness for 'gut instinct'!

This is, i'm afraid, full of utter nonsense.

[Richard Barrett]

'Gut Instinct' is sometimes our only means of getting at the truth

No, finding out the facts of the matter is always the only way of getting at the truth. There is no way of knowing the extent to which "gut instinct" consists of received wisdom or comes from some other origin, because by definition it hasn't involved any careful consideration. At various points in history, "gut instinct" told people that the world is flat, that dark-skinned people are inferior and deserve nothing more than to be slaves, and many other example of ignorance and prejudice.

[ahinton]

'Gut Instinct' is sometimes our only means of getting at the truth and is based on our previous personal experience of human nature and behaviour. It is the very opposite of 'received wisdom' which is often simplistic nonsense originally emanating from the mouths of social-engineering propagandists and which, therefore, invariably turns out to be completely false.

Of course 'gut instinct' might occasionally let us down, but, as it's based on actual life-experience rather than popular narrative, it has an awful lot more going for it.

Thank goodness for 'gut instinct'!

Facts are facts. Gut instincts vary from one person's gut to that of another. Case closed.

In any event, gut instincts are for string players.

Now, where's me coat?...