Paris, anyone?

[Beef Oven!]

I realise now I should have capitalised the L in "little" to make it more clear what I was saying (but I thought it was clear enough), which was, needless to say, not a reference to any member(s) of this forum but more generally to those who bemoan the multicultural aspect of contemporary Britain - there are many things wrong with the country but this I think is emphatically not one of them. Spending most of my time as I currently do in a much more monocultural place has put this in an even sharper perspective for me than previously.

What's wrong with "monocultural" places?

Why, for example, should countries such as Jamaica or Turkey be 'multicultural'?

Why do you think that Britain is superior to "monocultural" places?

Has an assumption been made that "monocultural" places are bad or undesirable? Who decides this?

[Serial_Apologist]

What's wrong with "monocultural" places?

One look at the Royal Family will give you the answer.

[Serial_Apologist]

One look at the Royal Family will give you the answer.

And what about all the music you're always on about, which wouldn't even exist without multiculturalism?

[Beef Oven!]

One look at the Royal Family will give you the answer.

Jamaica and Turkey, for example, do not have a royal family. What's wrong with "monocultural" societies? Why is there a taken for granted assumption that multicultural society is superior? Who decides these things?

[Beef Oven!]

And what about all the music you're always on about, which wouldn't even exist without multiculturalism?

Sushiology!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't have Sushi, kebabs, curries, spaghetti.............come on! Get real!

P.S. What do you mean On About? What's the difference between all the music posts and someone going on about?

[Pabmusic]

Jamaica and Turkey, for example, do not have a royal family. What's wrong with "monocultural" societies? Why is there a taken for granted assumption that multicultural society is superior? Who decides these things?

A 'monocultural' society implies to me that it is the society that dictates the culture its members share - rather as children born to very religious parents are expected to adopt that religion. 'Multicultural' ought to mean that society reflects the particular mix of cultures prevalent at the moment.

[Beef Oven!]

A 'monocultural' society implies to me that it is the society that dictates the culture its members share - rather as children born to very religious parents are expected to adopt that religion. 'Multicultural' ought to mean that society reflects the particular mix of cultures prevalent at the moment.

Like Jamaica and Turkey? They reflect the the particular mix of cultures prevalent in their countries at the moment, don't they? Or do you think Jamaica forces people to be black and Turkey forces its population to be muslim?

And "monocultural" societies dictate culture, and multi-cultural societies reflect culture? Hmm.

Anyway, let's wait until the originator of "monocultural" places, descends from Mount Olympus and tells us what it means. Horse's mouth and all that.

[Nick Armstrong]

One look at the Royal Family will give you the answer.

You mean the Greco-German family formerly known as Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, with a splash of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg?

[Ian]

I suppose one (dis)advantage of multiculturalism is that it is a form of globalization. If every country in the world went all multicultural all countries would essentially become very similar.

[Beef Oven!]

I suppose one (dis)advantage of multiculturalism is that it is a form of globalization. If every country in the world went all multicultural all countries would essentially become very similar.

Don't be cynical. The weather would be different and the mountains wouldn't look the same. Ain't that enough for you?

And we could look back to Blighty with pride, knowing that it is no different to where we are! Lovely!

[Krystal]

Among the leaders standing shoulder to shoulder at the front of the free speech march in Paris on Sunday was Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry. How about he return home and release from prison journalists such as the Australian Peter Greste? Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu marched too. Perahps he should admit that marching for free speech doesn't sit well with Turkey holding a 2 year record - ahead of even Iran and China - for jailing the most journalists.

But you're all welcome to feel good about symbolism. Something like believing in Santa Claus.

[ahinton]

A 'monocultural' society implies to me that it is the society that dictates the culture its members share - rather as children born to very religious parents are expected to adopt that religion. 'Multicultural' ought to mean that society reflects the particular mix of cultures prevalent at the moment.

Precisely. The prospect of a monocultural society (and who decides on the particular culture in these, one might wonder? - who decides these things? as has been asked here repeatedly about multicultural ones) in UK would be more than enough to make me want to leave although, if I didn't, I might be forced to ****** off back to Scotland in any case (yes, I know that it's still part of the so-called United Kingdom, but we are speaking of Little Englanders here).

If Little Englanders are identified by sharing the Beef view as presented here, why did some of their forebears do so much colonising? Asking for trouble, that, surely?

Is a monocultural society one, for example, in which Muslims must all inhabit and not step outside certain countries designated for them (by whom?) and Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs et al likewise? And would it seek to presume total racial segregation along the lines of "England for the English only" (which sounds almost like an EDF slogan - and no, I'm not talking about the energy supply company, which is French anyway)? Apart from the sheer horror of such a notion, who on earth are the English anyway? And why would Little Englanders concern themselves with what's been going on in France?

The mind fair boggles...

[ahinton]

Among the leaders standing shoulder to shoulder at the front of the free speech march in Paris on Sunday was Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry. How about he return home and release from prison journalists such as the Australian Peter Greste? Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu marched too. Perahps he should admit that marching for free speech doesn't sit well with Turkey holding a 2 year record - ahead of even Iran and China - for jailing the most journalists.

But you're all welcome to feel good about symbolism. Something like believing in Santa Claus.

But which of us here is doing that? Indeed, the hypocrisy of some of the leaders' appearances there has already been alluded to in this thread and with ample reason, that of Britain's leader being no particular exception in terms of preparedness to stand by and endorse to a certain degree the curtailment of free speech...

[mercia]

Why, for example, should countries such as Jamaica or Turkey be 'multicultural'? This suggests that the questioner thinks Jamaica and Turkey are monocultural countries.

Like Jamaica and Turkey? They reflect the the particular mix of cultures prevalent in their countries at the moment, don't they? This suggests that the (same) questioner thinks Jamaica and Turkey are multicultural countries.

[P. G. Tipps]

But which of us here is doing that? Indeed, the hypocrisy of some of the leaders' appearances there has already been alluded to in this thread and with ample reason, that of Britain's leader being no particular exception in terms of preparedness to stand by and endorse to a certain degree the curtailment of free speech...

Oh please do lay off these poor politicians, ahinton ... they're only human!

I haven't yet met a man or woman who''s not a hypocrite to some degree. Only the pet dog has an immaculate record regarding complete and transparent honesty and consistency, sense of duty to those he serves and total all-round reliability.

Be fair!