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  • mercia
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    • Nov 2010
    • 8920

    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
    Btw, can't help feeling that you could have come up with that definition yourself.
    possibly. I think as long as the definition satisfies you (since it was you who asked some 8 hours ago), that is the main thing.

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    • Ian
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      • Nov 2010
      • 358

      Originally posted by Krystal View Post
      I wonder if there's any nexus between my statement right there and Merkel's 2010 pronouncement about the "failures" of multi-culturalism?
      I don’t really know what Merkel has in mind. By my definition her phrasing doesn’t make sense. For me it would only be meaningful to talk about a failure to achieve a multi-cultural society.

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 37340

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Of or relating to a society consisting of a number of cultural groups, esp. in which the distinctive cultural identity of each group is maintained.
        I can't name a single country in which distinctive group cultural identities are wholly maintained.

        There was once the good old white British tradition of cultural chauvinism towards all other ethnicities, and that has thankfully taken a hammering as people have become accepting of others. Then there are such cultural practices as polygamy and polyandry. Whether reformed or not, it would seem that host countries always retain hegemonic sanction.

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        • MrGongGong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          2 is definitely a number. There is some argument as to whether zero is a number. Of course the real question is, is 1 a number?
          I think if you are after the origins of mathematics you better look further east than Dagenham

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          • Richard Barrett

            Originally posted by Krystal View Post
            The late Christopher Hitchens was powerful and eloquent when describing Islamofascism
            Really? What about “I don't think the war in Afghanistan was ruthlessly enough waged.” Or “Will an Iraq war make our Al Qaeda problem worse? Not likely.” Or “The death toll is not nearly high enough... too many [jihadists] have escaped.” To me he sounds rather like a jihadi himself.

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            • teamsaint
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              • Nov 2010
              • 25177

              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              I think if you are after the origins of mathematics you better look further east than Dagenham
              TALK OF Patrick Mcgooghan seems more apt than ever, especially with Teresa Mays dulcet tones still ringing in our ears.....
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • Beef Oven!
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                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                I think if you are after the origins of mathematics you better look further east than Dagenham
                Dagenham? That's gone over my head

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                • JFLL
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                  • Jan 2011
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                  Originally posted by Ian View Post
                  A multicultural society would be one where people of different cultures are allowed ... to live according to whatever traditions and laws that constitute that particular culture.
                  Wouldn't that be unworkable? What about actions which would consitute a crime to one of the parties but not to the other? For the sake of argument, say one party whose laws allowed him to kill someone who blasphemed against his god did in fact kill someone of another persuasion. Whose law would be applied? There has to be a law of the land to which everyone is subject. It's quite rightly one of the cornerstones of civil society. The alternative is anarchy.

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                  • ahinton
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Never mind about 'deserve', you must pay attention.
                    I did as I said I did.

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    You don't live in a multicultural area.
                    According to you, but you don;t live here; I do, so ought to (and do) know.

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    All straw man arguments are hypothetical
                    Best not to make them, then...

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    It's a silly racial stereo-type that adds nothing to our understanding of anything
                    In your view, perhaps; self-evidently not in the view of those who use it when they choose to do so.

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    All posts must be read the way they are written. I think that's how forums like this work. People post, people read the posts and some reply. And so on.
                    I do know that!

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    I can't get to the meaning because of the babble you write
                    Repetition!

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Would what presume total racial segregation........? What are you on about?
                    Please go back and read the posts in context.

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    If you find this tedious and want to get back to the thread topic, don't play to the audience, just stop posting great long replies.
                    Don't make out that I have written something that I have not!

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                    • Ian
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 358

                      Originally posted by JFLL View Post
                      Wouldn't that be unworkable?
                      I’m sure it probably would be unworkable - but ‘multiculturism’ is an idea - it can exist as a concept if not a practical reality.

                      However, just for the sake of idle speculation, the ‘universal agreement‘ that would be needed to make such a society work would obviously have to cover situations like the one you mention. I don’t think it’s too hard to outline how it might do that. However, as I’m not actually proposing such a society I don’t feel the need to .

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                      • ahinton
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16122

                        Originally posted by Ian View Post
                        A multicultural society would be one where people of different cultures are allowed (by universal agreement among all the cultures present) to live according to whatever traditions and laws that constitute that particular culture.
                        It isn't and couldn't be; I agree with M. Leboeuf here. Each country, if it's to be a country, has to have laws for all, otherwise it would never work; imagine what would happen for mixed race couples whose origins are in countries with quite different laws...

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                        • MrGongGong
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          Originally posted by JFLL View Post
                          The alternative is anarchy.
                          Point of information.

                          Anarchy is not chaos.

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                          • ahinton
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16122

                            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                            Point of information.

                            Anarchy is not chaos.
                            They are not inherently synonymous, sure, but they can occur simultaneously.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                              They are not inherently synonymous, sure, but they can occur simultaneously.
                              "Chaos" can occur simultaneously with many things - "parliamentary democracy" included.
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • JFLL
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                                • Jan 2011
                                • 780

                                Originally posted by Ian View Post
                                I’m sure it probably would be unworkable - but ‘multiculturism’ is an idea - it can exist as a concept if not a practical reality.

                                However, just for the sake of idle speculation, the ‘universal agreement‘ that would be needed to make such a society work would obviously have to cover situations like the one you mention. I don’t think it’s too hard to outline how it might do that. However, as I’m not actually proposing such a society I don’t feel the need to .
                                Yes, I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the real world. It would be difficult, in my view, to devise a system of laws which attempted to reconcile irreconcilables -- unless one were only imagining it.

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