Remembrance Sunday

[MrGongGong]

It's the near-compulsory nature of it all that annoys and repels me.

I think this is true for many people
Many object to the "scripted" way in which people are expected to behave

[Beef Oven!]

[MrGongGong]

the near-compulsory nature of it all

We are all supposed to love football as well

[Pabmusic]

I think this is true for many people
Many object to the "scripted" way in which people are expected to behave

As one who is incapable of following a script (not quite true - following only my script) I agree 100%. My feelings on Armistice Day are my own and definitely not an official view. I am fully behind the idea of remembrance, but not the official view of remembrance.

[amateur51]

As long as you remember that the two countries to which Eurostar travels would both be having a Public Holiday.

My plan all along

[amateur51]

I think this is true for many people
Many object to the "scripted" way in which people are expected to behave

Classic right-wing compulsion to impose deference on us all.

A bit like the script on terrorism.

[Beef Oven!]

I am fully behind the idea of remembrance, but not the official view of remembrance.

A minority view, but a valid, understandable one.

I'm not too far away from you on this. But my take is that most people don't adopt a too 'thinking' approach to such things and in overall terms, remembrance works pretty much ok.

[MrGongGong]

A minority view, but a valid, understandable one.

I'm not too far away from you on this. But my take is that most people don't adopt a too 'thinking' approach to such things and in overall terms, remembrance works pretty much ok.

You are really suggesting that a "too thinking" approach is a BAD idea ?

Which bit of The Messiah does that remind me of ?

[Beef Oven!]

You are really suggesting that a "too thinking" approach is a BAD idea ?

It's all about context MrGG. For example, take music. Sometimes it's best to just get on with it and let it happen. It's rarely a problem!

You do go in for false-dichotomies!

[Mary Chambers]

I dislike the one-sidedness of it all. If we remember war, we should remember everyone who suffered - all nationalities, civilians included. It's not 800,00. It's many millions.

The performance of War Requiem from the RAH wasn't particularly good. Bryn Terfel was a lot better than I expected, though. It probably sounded better in the hall. Trinity Boys' Choir, excellent. Royal Choral Society, rather woolly, but perhaps not a fair reflection. It was the Albert Hall, after all.

The Classic FM presentation was beyond awful.

[MrGongGong]

It's all about context MrGG. For example, take music. Sometimes it's best to just get on with it and let it happen. It's rarely a problem!

You do go in for false-dichotomies!

That's not a "false-dichotomy"

This IS a problem for many people (and interestingly many who are much closer to the events themselves)

(lets' just get on with being part of the EU mate and stop this "too-thinking" nonsense)

I dislike the one-sidedness of it all. If we remember war, we should remember everyone who suffered - all nationalities, civilians included. It's not 800,00. It's many millions.
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Exactly

[amateur51]

Not wishing to sound pompous, but rarely a day goes by when I don't 'remember'.

You only have to watch the appetite for war all over the world to reflect on the pattern of needless violence, retribution, futher violence, cease-fire, unresolved conflict, more war etc. and to pity humanity's capacity for self-destruction in the name of nation.

Currently there are millions of refugess all over the Middle East - Mishal Husain was broadcasting from Bekaa Valley in Lebanon, home of the delightful Chateau Musar, on Today on R4 this morning.So much suffering, so little evidence of genuine caring from governments.Who is remembering these people, true orphans of the storm?

[Pabmusic]

...You do go in for false-dichotomies!

Do you know what a false dichotomy is?

[It is ssuming there are only two alternatives when in fact there are more. How is that relevant to Mr GG?]

[Beef Oven!]

Do you know what a false dichotomy is?

I wasn't saying that life is a choice between thinking and 'not too thinking', as MrGG implied with his Messiah reference. A false choice is what I was thinking.

[Beef Oven!]

I dislike the one-sidedness of it all. If we remember war, we should remember everyone who suffered - all nationalities, civilians included. It's not 800,00. It's many millions.

The performance of War Requiem from the RAH wasn't particularly good. Bryn Terfel was a lot better than I expected, though. It probably sounded better in the hall. Trinity Boys' Choir, excellent. Royal Choral Society, rather woolly, but perhaps not a fair reflection. It was the Albert Hall, after all.

The Classic FM presentation was beyond awful.

FFS, stay focused.