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Who Killed Classical Music?
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Richard Barrett
Originally posted by Honoured Guest View PostSycophancy to the powers that be?
Anyway, the "decision" I was talking about seems to have taken place, perhaps somewhat gradually, much more recently than the days of Keller et al.
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostI don't know about Britten and Matthews, but Simpson was the very opposite of a sycophant.
Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostAnyway, the "decision" I was talking about seems to have taken place, perhaps somewhat gradually, much more recently than the days of Keller et al.
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Originally posted by Sydney Grew View PostWell - I have two final questions for member Hinton:
1) Why twelve notes? I have asked this question many times but no one has ever ventured an answer. Why not eleven, say, or seven plus one, or six? There cannot possibly be any musical reason for the twelve every time round can there? Why not simply select the note you want when you want it (i.e. free pan-tonalism)? (And that the note you want is the next one in some fixed "row" should not be the reason why you want it should it?)
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Originally posted by Oddball View PostAs has been stated, he had to start somewhere. However I do believe Brian Ferneyhough recently composed something for a quarter tone oboe, which was played on Hear and Now. That would give 48 notes.
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Quatuor Diotima are all that the reviewer cracks them up to be and more.Last edited by ahinton; 28-01-14, 15:08.
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Richard Barrett
Originally posted by Oddball View PostHowever I do believe Brian Ferneyhough recently composed something for a quarter tone oboe, which was played on Hear and Now. That would give 28 (?) notes.
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and to this "question"
2) As has already been observed, the common people stay away in droves from performances of modern music. Why is the member unable or unwilling to accept their judgement? There are two obvious remedies are there not: either re-educate the people (very unlikely) or write more attractive music.
You are mixing up taste with value (but doing so in en extremely obtuse and verbose way)
The "common people" also "stay away" from Bach's music
so that must be because it's crap as well
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostYou are simply wrong about people 'staying away'
You are mixing up taste with value (but doing so in en extremely obtuse and verbose way)
Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostThe "common people" also "stay away" from Bach's music so that must be because it's crap as well
It should be obvious that if, even among the tiny minority of the population as a whole who attend prformances and purchase recordings of Western "classical" music, the majority had steered well clear of those of or including "modern music" (whatever that may mean - and to read SG's posts one could be forgiven that he doesn't mean "modern music" at all but most music composed during the past 120 years or so), there would soon have been a massive decline in such performances and recordings which is clearly not the case.Last edited by ahinton; 28-01-14, 18:11.
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Originally posted by kea View PostThirteen is unlucky.
And most of Schoenberg's Serial Music from Mose onwards is hexachordal and/or tetrachordal in construction[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostAll this denial about a 12 note scale.
It derives from the harmonic series, albeit modified by the adoption of equal temperament. Like it or not, all music is based on something.
But it does not seem to me that because this is an attractive way of dividing up the audible spectrum, it is not the only division that may produce musically engaging results.
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Originally posted by Oddball View PostWell, harmonic series are very scientific, and all scientific phemonena involving waves are based on modes, overtones, etc.
But it does not seem to me that because this is an attractive way of dividing up the audible spectrum, it is not the only division that may produce musically engaging results.
Harry Partch (one of many) being a classic example IMV
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
You are mixing up taste with value (but doing so in en extremely obtuse and verbose way)
The "common people" also "stay away" from Bach's music
so that must be because it's crap as well
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