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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #46
    We could have
    "music for people who have read Adorno" ?

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    • Bryn
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      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #47
      The extent of my readin of Adorno is on a par with Peter Sellers's singing of George Gershwin.

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      • french frank
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        • Feb 2007
        • 30279

        #48
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        The extent of my readin of Adorno is on a par with Peter Sellers's singing of George Gershwin.
        We could start here, Bryn - or is this on a par with Sellers/Gershwin?
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Bryn
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          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #49
          Peter Sellers sings George Gershwin.

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          • french frank
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            • Feb 2007
            • 30279

            #50
            Well that was quite painless
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #51
              Othewise I never bothered to venture beyond the Verso "Aesthetics and Politics". It just seemed so much more interesting to listen to music, even his string quartet works (Op. 2 Pieces, the String Quartet, and the 6 Studies).

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              • 3rd Viennese School

                #52
                Come to think of it, Hear and Now sometimes has a whole programme of more commercial type music, so my answer may not be entirely correct.

                Contemporary actually means stuff people have written at round about the same time. (You lot knew that!)

                There is no one correct answer. As they say about Sibelius Symphonies.

                3VS

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                • Ian
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 358

                  #53
                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  We could have
                  "music for people who have read Adorno" ?
                  Or perhaps "music for people who think Adorno has got something useful to say"

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #54
                    though its a long time since I did read Adorno
                    I do remember that he (along with Dahlhaus and Benjamin) had much to say
                    though "useful" is an odd way of judging the value of aesthetics

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                    • Ian
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 358

                      #55
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      though its a long time since I did read Adorno
                      I do remember that he (along with Dahlhaus and Benjamin) had much to say
                      though "useful" is an odd way of judging the value of aesthetics
                      No judgement offered.

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                      • Cellini

                        #56
                        Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                        Would you call, for example, James MacMillan a composer of new music?

                        I have got my coat ready.
                        I wouldn't call him a composer of ANY music ...

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                        • Cellini

                          #57
                          Ian, I usued to live in Penarth!! Lovely place.

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                          • Cellini

                            #58
                            All this navel gazing when after all it is all just music. Doesn't matter if its new, old, or in between. It's either good or bad.

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                            • Ian
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 358

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Cellini View Post
                              It's either good or bad.
                              Why would anyone write bad music?

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                              • ahinton
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16122

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Ian View Post
                                Why would anyone write bad music?
                                Who knows? - but someone with whom I studied briefly some years ago told me that Milhaud (with whom he had himself studied) once told him that one mark of a good composer is the abilty to write bad music really well; make what you can (or can't) of that, if you will (or won't)...

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