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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
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    Chronos Aion

    The UK premiere (five years after it was written) of Ferneyhough's Chronos Aion is part of tomorrow night's H&N from the Huddersfield Contemporary Music Festival. I shall be particularly interested in this as the acoustic in Huddersfield Town Hall was rather "muddy" and a lot of detail (clear on the YouTube recording, "taken", I imagine from the Aeon CD) was lost. Having watched the concert of Gruppen made available by Chris, it occured to me how much BF's recent works (such as Plotzlichkeit and CA) owe to the Stockhausen (but without the continuity that Gruppen's overlapping layers provide).

    The other works on the programme seemed less impressive on a first hearing: Fabien Levy's Qwerwuschig struck me as a collection of "Advanced Technique" cliches, and Francesco Fillidei's Finito ogni gesto, whilst being amiable enough, finished quite a long after it ended. I hope the broadcast demonstrates that the demands of the Festival had taken such a toll on me that I missed hearing a couple of splendid pieces.

    Oh, and Stephen Fry has a few quite interesting comments on Conlon Nancarrow.

    Best Wishes.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
  • ahinton
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    Oh, and Stephen Fry has a few quite interesting comments on Conlon Nancarrow.Best Wishes.
    Where? I'd like to read those!

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3
      Originally posted by ahinton View Post
      Where? I'd like to read those!
      As yet, unprinted. But the mini-Feast of Stephen can be heard during tonight's Hear and Now.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
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        #4
        Listening right now to the Ferneyhough, I am struck by how increasingly rich with passing idiomatic references his music becomes. Didn't get anything from the other new works played in this programme, but I think I could go on listening to Ferneyhough forever!

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        • geofflikesmusic

          #5
          For some reason I never pictured Fry to be a Conlon Nancarrow fan.

          I'd like to hear his views when published.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30252

            #6
            Originally posted by geofflikesmusic View Post
            For some reason I never pictured Fry to be a Conlon Nancarrow fan.

            I'd like to hear his views when published.
            They're now available as a podcast here.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • geofflikesmusic

              #7
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              They're now available as a podcast here.
              Thanks French Frank!

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #8
                geof, if you want to hear it in significantly higher audio quality (the podcast is a 128kbps mp3), try 40 minutes into Saturday's Hear & Now at:



                The iPlayer's HDS version is at 320kbps aac. It will be there until around midnight next Saturday.

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                • Quarky
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 2656

                  #9
                  Originally posted by geofflikesmusic View Post
                  For some reason I never pictured Fry to be a Conlon Nancarrow fan.

                  I'd like to hear his views when published.
                  Same here - I had an image of Stephen as a hulky rugger playing macho Wagnerian - probably with Wagnerian political views.

                  However I found Joanna Mcgregor's comments far more to the musical point, and summarised excellently the essence of the music.

                  All in all a very good H&N, as was the previous week. But I think as regards Ferneyhough, enough is as good as a feast.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Listening right now to the Ferneyhough, I am struck by how increasingly rich with passing idiomatic references his music becomes. Didn't get anything from the other new works played in this programme, but I think I could go on listening to Ferneyhough forever!
                    I would have welcomed more of Bernhard Lang's Tables are Turned: I greatly admire Differenz/Wiederholung 2 and the Theatre of Differences, but some of his more recent stuff has seemed tame in comparison. The fragments from Tables sounded more like it! (I even heard someone at the Festival saying that "This is a totally new way of using the materials of Music. All that post-Minimalist and post-Complexity stuff's gone stale." Re-hearing the Levy - and remembering pieces by Einarsson and Franzson played by ELISION at another event - I felt what he meant.)
                    The Filidei had its many moments, but I still didn't get as much out of it as Worby and SMP did.

                    But the Ferneyhough was a terrific performance, and we heard a better, clearer sound on the i-Player than I did in the hall. It's Music that draws me in deeper with every listening and I think it's astonishing how he moves from piece to piece, evolving his writing so that each has its own identity whilst still being clearly the work of the same imagination.

                    Best Wishes.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Oddball View Post
                      But I think as regards Ferneyhough, enough is as good as a feast.
                      A typo here, Oddy? Surely you meant "Ferneyhough is as good as a feast"?
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • geofflikesmusic

                        #12
                        next episode will have a performance of some Morton Feldman solo piano by John Tilbury!

                        Wonderfully underrated composer, and for me his best interpreter for piano.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #13
                          Originally posted by geofflikesmusic View Post
                          next episode will have a performance of some Morton Feldman solo piano by John Tilbury!

                          Wonderfully underrated composer, and for me his best interpreter for piano.
                          I guess that will be a matter of spinning his London/Hall recording. If you have not already heard it, I highly recommend the recording of his 10 June 2006 performance of Feldman's Triadic Memories (St. John's, Smith Square) on the ATOPOS label (ATOPOS 012/013). Not the easiest of double CD issues to get hold of, but well worth the effort.

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                          Scroll down and use the arrow at the bottom right of the page to navigate to discs 012/013.

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                          • geofflikesmusic

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            I guess that will be a matter of spinning his London/Hall recording. If you have not already heard it, I highly recommend the recording of his 10 June 2006 performance of Feldman's Triadic Memories (St. John's, Smith Square) on the ATOPOS label (ATOPOS 012/013). Not the easiest of double CD issues to get hold of, but well worth the effort.

                            The Classical Net web site offers a comprehensive collection of information and news on classical music subjects including articles and CD reviews, composers and their music, the basic repertoire, recommended recordings and a CD buying guide. The site now features over 9000 files of information including thousands of CD, Book, Concert, DVD and Blu-ray reviews and more than 5500 links to other classical music sites.





                            Scroll down and use the arrow at the bottom right of the page to navigate to discs 012/013.

                            Thanks Bryn, I will check it out!

                            I kick myself almost every day, for not buying his 'All Piano' set of Morton Feldman's music :(

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #15
                              Originally posted by geofflikesmusic View Post
                              Thanks Bryn, I will check it out!

                              I kick myself almost every day, for not buying his 'All Piano' set of Morton Feldman's music :(
                              Well, until you manage to get hold of a copy, content youself with the knowledge that John Tilbury picked Triadic Memories for the St. John's, Smith Square concert because it was the one recording in that All Piano set that he was somewhat unhappy with. The ATOPOS discs offer a considerable improvement upon the studio recording.

                              By the way, the liner notes for the "All Piano" set may be found here:



                              The name of the recording venue which may get garbled in transcription there, should read "Tonstudio Ströher".
                              Last edited by Bryn; 14-12-11, 22:37.

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