Download of "Gruppen" and Xenakis

[Chris Newman]

Here is a Download of a concert including "GRUPPEN "
Duration 1:14:32
Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra/ Ensemble Modern
Conductors: Matthias Pintscher, Lucas Vis, Paul Fitzsimon
Saar Berger (Horn)
Live from Böllenfalltorhalle, Darmstadt
Shot on 26/11/2011 | Online for another 358 days and 8 hours

http://liveweb.arte.tv/fr/video/_GRUPPEN3_/

Program:
Iannis Xenakis - " Terretektorh "for orchestra
Anthony Cheung: "Fog Mobiles" for horn and orchestra
Thierry de Mey: "Table Music" for three percussion
Karl-Heinz Stockhausen: "Gruppen" for three orchestras

Description
Meeting in two dimensions for the emergence of a new link: music and space are intertwined in this concert, the orchestra and the audience mix in "Terretektorh" Xenakis, the auditor discusses new musical landscapes , climate and atmosphere, the sounds become known traces to wander in space. With "Gruppen" for three orchestras Stockhausen, musicians opt for new arrangements, the spray form of the concert hall to make its provisions and its space-time moving a new sensory experience.

[MrGongGong]

thanks for this
just what I need on a cold afternoon

[amateur51]

Blinkey blimey Chris! - many thanks for this

[handsomefortune]

Download of "Gruppen" and Xenakis

thanks v much chris newman.

[Serial_Apologist]

Grippin Gruppen!

[Chris Newman]

Grippin Gruppen!

And you others who have watched, thanks.

I first heard Gruppen when it was first played at a Prom with Pierre Boulez, Sir Edward Downes and Michael Tabachnik. I was rather annoyed that some members of the then BBCSO wore crash helmets and behaved as if it was a joke. You can loathe, love or simply like something but you must be professional. The Frankfurt RSO really put their hearts into the whole concert.


I am very impressed by the variety of music on the ArteLive Web from whence I popped this link and some other concerts. The concerts are usually available for a couple of months. It makes the 7 days on iPlayer look pathetic. Also ArteLive is free. I have it on my desktop. Lots of great jazz and rock too. Its good for keeping my holiday French topped up as well. It makes the BBC look very pale.

[DublinJimbo]

I am very impressed by the variety of music on the ArteLive Web from whence I popped this link and some other concerts. The concerts are usually available for a couple of months. It makes the 7 days on iPlayer look pathetic. Also ArteLive is free. I have it on my desktop. Lots of great jazz and rock too. Its good for keeping my holiday French topped up as well. It makes the BBC look very pale.

I agree wholeheartedly. What a wonderful facility! Thanks, not only for the direct link to the Gruppen concert, but for sharing the wonders of this site in general.

[Serial_Apologist]

And you others who have watched, thanks.

I first heard Gruppen when it was first played at a Prom with Pierre Boulez, Sir Edward Downes and Michael Tabachnik. I was rather annoyed that some members of the then BBCSO wore crash helmets and behaved as if it was a joke. You can loathe, love or simply like something but you must be professional.

Thanks to you Chris. That Prom performance was a good 'un though, no? But I've seen rock bands wearing crash helmets, btw...

[Bryn]

A couple of real gems, all too rarely heard on BBC Radio 3, round off this offering on ArteLive:

http://liveweb.arte.tv/fr/video/Concert_baroque_avec_Janine_Jansen_et_Jean-Christophe_Spinosi/

Hurrah for HDPE (other solutions available ).

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Many Thanks for this link, Chris ( ): it helped to alleviate the post-Huddersfield "blues" (in fact, the de Mey was a very Huddersfield piece ).

I didn't know the Xenakis, but I loved the reaction of the two young blonde women (twins?) when the Brass entered at around 4 mins! And the Stockhausen performance made me realize how much Ferneyhough owes to this piece in his own Plotlichkeit and Cronos Aion. (This latter to be broadcast on Hear & Now next Saturday, by the way.)

I've bookmarked the site: an Aladdin's cave of treasures.

Best Wishes.

[johnb]

Thanks Chris,

I've never looked at the LiveWeb Arte TV website before but as an experiment I downloaded the Messiaen/Schumann Pno Conc/Berlioz Symph Fant concert with the Orch. de Paris conducted by Paavo Jarvi and played it through my TV and audio system.

The presentation and camera work is very impressive, much better than what we get from the BBC, and the picture quality is surprisingly good. I thought the sound was suffering from dynamic range compression though (the sort of thing we get on FM) which is a pity.

I was mesmerized by the encore the pianist played after the Schumann Concerto, as were some of the orchestra from the shots of musicians with their eyes closed (but they could have just dozed off).

Anyway, does anyone know what the piece was? (It is approximately 53 minutes into the concert.) Perhaps Chopin?

[amateur51]

I agree wholeheartedly. What a wonderful facility! Thanks, not only for the direct link to the Gruppen concert, but for sharing the wonders of this site in general.

Totally agree DublinJimbo

Many thanks indeed Chris still no pork pie icon

[Bryn]

Another source for a download of Gruppen (and Carré, come to that) can be found by Googling "Wolf Fifth". A real treasure trove of 'avant guarde' vinyl transfers.

[Sydney Grew]

. . . The concerts are usually available for a couple of months. . . .

And it should be noted that even thereafter, despite the French legend about expiry (ignore it), the concerts do remain available for down-loading indefinitely if (as I have recently expounded elsewhere) one uses rtmpdump.

Lots of great jazz and rock . . .

Sorry but for me that is a contradiction in terms. Logically impossible. I am not even sure about Stockhausen. By the way, Pli selon jolly old Pli is there as well, if any one is interested:

rtmpdump -r rtmp://arte.fcod.llnwd.net:1935/a2306/o25 -a a2306/o25 -f "WIN 10,3,183,7" -t rtmp://arte.fcod.llnwd.net:1935/a2306/o25 -p http://liveweb.arte.tv/ -o PliSelon.flv -y MP4:liveweb/stream/2806_20110927_Boulez_Pleyel-DEF_hd.mp4

(all one line)

[John Skelton]

for me that is a contradiction in terms. Logically impossible.

If only you were ontologically impossible.