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  • Richard Barrett
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    • Jan 2016
    • 6259

    #31
    That Michael Matthews link didn't work for me. I shall make further investigations though - this is a composer I hadn't come across at all before your mention of him!

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #32
      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
      Thanks for pointing to this... and what an amazing contribution John Tilbury has made over the decades. I first came across him in the early 70s when I was working in Germany. Someone asked me about him and I confessed to not knowing him. I did then find out.
      I first heard, then met, JT in February 1969, via a series of three Southbank concerts entitled "The Contemporary Pianist", put on by that great undersung hero of new music, Victor Schoenfield. At a later series of four concerts was one at Wigmore Hall, entitled "The Sound of Music", in which JT seamlessly wove together snippets of works from the history of piano music. Thus did he introduce me to several works that were previously unknown to me, not least Schubert's D. 960 Sonata, the opening of the slow movement leading straight into that of the first movement of Beethoven's Op. 57. I owe John a great debt for what he has done for me, musically and otherwise, over the decades.
      Last edited by Bryn; 13-02-20, 13:33. Reason: Misremembered date + typos.

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      • Edgy 2
        Guest
        • Jan 2019
        • 2035

        #33
        David Hackbridge Johnson - Symphony No 13 (2017) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...L360qYoxf_EdyE
        David Matthews - Symphony No 8 (2014) https://youtu.be/XgqMKCTuC3o
        Steve Elcock - Choses renversees par le temps ou la destruction (2013) https://youtu.be/HiQe9XW7B-0
        John Kinsella - Symphony No 10 (2010) http://www.musicweb-international.co...s_TOCC0242.htm
        Peter Maxwell Davies - Symphony No 10 (2013) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sir-Peter-M.../dp/B010GJTWNA
        Krzysztof Meyer - String Quartet No 13 (2010) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Meyer-Compl.../dp/B009TBNWBU
        “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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        • Beef Oven!
          Ex-member
          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #34
          Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post
          David Hackbridge Johnson - Symphony No 13 (2017) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...L360qYoxf_EdyE
          David Matthews - Symphony No 8 (2014) https://youtu.be/XgqMKCTuC3o
          Steve Elcock - Choses renversees par le temps ou la destruction (2013) https://youtu.be/HiQe9XW7B-0
          John Kinsella - Symphony No 10 (2010) http://www.musicweb-international.co...s_TOCC0242.htm
          Peter Maxwell Davies - Symphony No 10 (2013) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sir-Peter-M.../dp/B010GJTWNA
          Krzysztof Meyer - String Quartet No 13 (2010) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Meyer-Compl.../dp/B009TBNWBU
          Good shout on the Meyer, that will go into my pick of the decade list.

          DHJ is unknown to me and I fancy a look.

          I don't get on with PMD's 10th symphony - I am trying!

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          • Edgy 2
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            • Jan 2019
            • 2035

            #35
            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            Good shout on the Meyer, that will go into my pick of the decade list.

            DHJ is unknown to me and I fancy a look.

            I don't get on with PMD's 10th symphony - I am trying!
            Not sure that I get PMD 10 but it's on my list because I cant stop listening to it.
            “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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            • Richard Barrett
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              • Jan 2016
              • 6259

              #36
              I'm not much of a fan of most PMD's symphonies... I did like the first movement of no.10, but subsequently as soon as the chorus enters it loses me, and from than on I find it very hard to concentrate on. The concept of the work appeals to me greatly, and I wish I could appreciate its realisation more than I do.

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              • Beef Oven!
                Ex-member
                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #37
                Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                I'm not much of a fan of most PMD's symphonies... I did like the first movement of no.10, but subsequently as soon as the chorus enters it loses me, and from than on I find it very hard to concentrate on. The concept of the work appeals to me greatly, and I wish I could appreciate its realisation more than I do.
                When I first listened to it, I was gripped by the music until the chorus enters, then it lost me. I return to it from time to time, but little changes for me. I really enjoy the rest of his symphonies, though.

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 38069

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  I first heard, then met, JT in 1968, via a series of three Southbank concerts entitled "The Contemporary Pianist", put on by that great undersung hero of new music, Victor Schoenfield. At a later series of four concerts was one at Wigmore Hall, entitled "The Sound of Music", in which JT seemlessly wove together snippets of works from the history of piano music. Thus did he introduce me to several works that were previously unknownto me, not least Schubert's D. 960 Sonata, the opening of the slow movement leading straight into the first that of the first movement of Beethoven's Op. 57. I owe John a great debt for what he has done for me, musically and otherwise, over the decades.
                  I first became acquainted with John Tilbury's work through a recital he gave at the "old" Arnolfini Gallery in Bristol, where they would put on "interesting" concerts around the beginning of the 1970s, attended by audiences who would sit on square cushions placed around the floor. On that occasion he interspersed a miscellany of pieces with discussions about them with the audience. One of the pieces was one of the Shostakovitch preludes and fugues - the fugue being a slow one. Afterwards he asked the audience, made up I would have guessed from previous questions and comments of music students, what they thought was one of the more prominent aspects of the music? Several seconds of silence ensued, so boldly going where no musically iliterate enthusiast hath ever gone before, I piped up with "Well, it's all modal". "Exactly!" answered Tilbury. Precisely what the significance of the piece being modal as opposed to being written using the diatonic system was, was then lost to me in my astonishment at having come up with the right answer! Something similar happened when PMD gave a piano recital at the venue around the same time, and it demonstrated to me that there were some composers who were more than willing to talk about and elucidate on their music - something which has generously been confirmed by contributions from Richard Barrett in particular on this forum.

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25272

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post
                    David Hackbridge Johnson - Symphony No 13 (2017) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...L360qYoxf_EdyE
                    David Matthews - Symphony No 8 (2014) https://youtu.be/XgqMKCTuC3o
                    Steve Elcock - Choses renversees par le temps ou la destruction (2013) https://youtu.be/HiQe9XW7B-0
                    John Kinsella - Symphony No 10 (2010) http://www.musicweb-international.co...s_TOCC0242.htm
                    Peter Maxwell Davies - Symphony No 10 (2013) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sir-Peter-M.../dp/B010GJTWNA
                    Krzysztof Meyer - String Quartet No 13 (2010) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Meyer-Compl.../dp/B009TBNWBU
                    Must say, I don’t know that Meyer Quartet, definitely one I’ll seek out.
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                    • Richard Barrett
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                      • Jan 2016
                      • 6259

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      I first heard, then met, JT in 1968
                      By the way, were you at his performance of For Bunita Marcus the other day?

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        By the way, were you at his performance of For Bunita Marcus the other day?
                        Sure thing. I'll send you a rough and ready recording made with my Tascam DR-100mk3's integral mics. Being Cafe OTO there are a fair few 'noises off'.

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                        • Richard Barrett
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                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6259

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Sure thing. I'll send you a rough and ready recording made with my Tascam DR-100mk3's integral mics. Being Cafe OTO there are a fair few 'noises off'.
                          Thanks! I'm also interested in the collaboration with Harry Gilonis of course. Coincidentally I'm planning a composition that sets some of the poems from that same cycle.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                            Thanks! I'm also interested in the collaboration with Harry Gilonis of course. Coincidentally I'm planning a composition that sets some of the poems from that same cycle.
                            I will also send a recording of today's Borough New Music Lunchtime Concert. Most of the event was taken up with Fred Rzewski's Chains and Spots (intermingled), but the first item, by Will Handysides (b. 1993), was the World Premiere of Introduction to the Opening of the Mouth (2018). Apparently, he has been fascinated by the Egyptian Book of the Dead for many years. He was quite unaware of your Opening of the Mouth. I advised him to seek it out.
                            Last edited by Bryn; 09-01-19, 12:40.

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                            • kea
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 749

                              #44
                              Honestly have never thought to categorise in that way but I guess....

                              Roland Kayn - A Little Electronic Milky Way of Sound
                              Chaya Czernowin - At the Fringe of Our Gaze
                              Éliane Radigue - Occam series
                              Evan Johnson - L'art de toucher le clavecin 2 & 3, Indolentiae ars
                              James Weeks - TIDE
                              Liza Lim - Extinction Events and Dawn Chorus
                              Rebecca Saunders - Stasis, Fletch, Unbreathed
                              Simon Steen-Andersen - String Quartet No.2
                              Heinz Holliger - String Quartet No.2, Machaut-Transkriptionen

                              And I'm not an extremely picky listener, but do nonetheless have a least favourite work of the decade

                              Helmut Lachenmann - Marche fatale (orchestral version)

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                              • Richard Barrett
                                Guest
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 6259

                                #45
                                Originally posted by kea View Post
                                Helmut Lachenmann - Marche fatale (orchestral version)
                                That is pretty awful, I agree. Although it's quite amusing to see Lachenmannites tying themselves in knots to justify it.

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