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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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    • Sep 2011
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    New Music from Wales; H&N, Sat 17/2/18; 10:30

    Last week's Hear & Now, "Scottish Inspirations", failed to inspire - it comes to something when the most interesting and freshest-sounding piece by far on a programme devoted to new Music is Oliver Knussen's Third Symphony from 40 years ago; the other orchestral works at best gave a sense of deja entendu (with one sounding so similar to the climax of the Lutoslawski 'cello Concerto that Chester Music should be claiming royalties) and at worst a disspiriting feeling of "deja deja entendu; the sense that you've previously experienced the same sense of disappointment at having previously heard a piece of Music before. Still very worth i-Playering the edition in order to hear the two works for Bass Clarinet ensembles; Isn't This a Time for quintet by Christian Wolff and Gnomen for quartet by Thanos Chrysakis, both recorded at Café Oto:

    Kate Molleson presents recordings from the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra.


    This week, there's no "Inspirations" apparently from Wales, and Amfortas' surgery means that the programme is ... erm ... cut to ninety minutes. And the BBC H&N website teasingly gives no further indication of what's going to be played, other than "including Music by Huw Watkins [b1976 in South Wales] and Ryan Wigglesworth" (b1979 in the Welsh county of ... Yorkshire).

    Tom McKinney presents new music from the BBC NOW Composer-in-Association Huw Watkins.



    The programme of Music from Iceland from a fortnight ago is still available on the i-Player:

    Tom Service reports from Iceland's Dark Music Days with a concert of new orchestral music.


    ... and next week's edition of H&N looks more ... well ... inspirational:

    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
  • Joseph K
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    • Oct 2017
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    #2
    I shall be tuning in to this - an orchestral piece by a former lecturer of mine, Andrew Lewis, is being broadcast.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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      • Sep 2011
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      #3
      Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
      I shall be tuning in to this - an orchestral piece by a former lecturer of mine, Andrew Lewis, is being broadcast.
      - the Beeb might have been more courteous towards Mr Lewis (and the other composers featured) if they'd actually mentioned his name on the H&N website.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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        • Sep 2011
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        #4
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Joseph K
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          • Oct 2017
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          #5
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          - the Beeb might have been more courteous towards Mr Lewis (and the other composers featured) if they'd actually mentioned his name on the H&N website.
          Indeed.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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            • Sep 2011
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            #6
            Oh.


            Well, the Lewis piece was I thought the most interesting in the programme ... but ... even so ... it was all a bit .... well ...

            ... feeble ... ...


            ...
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Bryn
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              • Mar 2007
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              #7
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              Oh.


              Well, the Lewis piece was I thought the most interesting in the programme ... but ... even so ... it was all a bit .... well ...

              ... feeble ... ...


              ...
              Well if they will leave out the greatest living Welsh composer . . .

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              • Joseph K
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                • Oct 2017
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                #8
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                Oh.


                Well, the Lewis piece was I thought the most interesting in the programme ... but ... even so ... it was all a bit .... well ...

                ... feeble ... ...


                ...
                Yes, I thought it was the most interesting. But like the other pieces, wasn't my cup of tea. I've heard other pieces by Lewis which were my cup of tea...

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                  • Sep 2011
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  Well if they will leave out the greatest living Welsh composer . . .
                  Yes - I took that as read! But it was definitely "Music from Wales" rather than "New Music by Welsh-born Composers" (just as with the "Scottish" programme the week before). With work not only by Wigglesworth but also Goehr, neither sounding "New" (something by Daniel Jones would have sounded fresher than anything in the programme, for Bangor's sake!) nor being Welsh, the programme was a waste of time for me.

                  AND, as soon as the Duke Ellington Sextet which opened Geoffrey Smith's following programme it was immediately apparent where real invention in rhythm, instrumentation, and harmony was to be found!
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                    • Sep 2011
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                    I've heard other pieces by Lewis which were my cup of tea...
                    The link to the composer's website I posted suggested that there were Darjeeling delights that this particular box of Typhoo didn't deliver.
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                    • Joseph K
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      The link to the composer's website I posted suggested that there were Darjeeling delights that this particular box of Typhoo didn't deliver.
                      His string quartet 'Tempo Reale' ought to be available (to hear). You can look at the score, however.

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                      • Bryn
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                        • Mar 2007
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Yes - I took that as read! But it was definitely "Music from Wales" rather than "New Music by Welsh-born Composers" (just as with the "Scottish" programme the week before). With work not only by Wigglesworth but also Goehr, neither sounding "New" (something by Daniel Jones would have sounded fresher than anything in the programme, for Bangor's sake!) nor being Welsh, the programme was a waste of time for me.

                        AND, as soon as the Duke Ellington Sextet which opened Geoffrey Smith's following programme it was immediately apparent where real invention in rhythm, instrumentation, and harmony was to be found!
                        Does Sir Karl no longer base himself in Wales then?

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                          • Sep 2011
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Does Sir Karl no longer base himself in Wales then?
                          You stole my punchline, sir!
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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                            His string quartet 'Tempo Reale' ought to be available (to hear). You can look at the score, however.
                            http://composersedition.com/andrew-lewis-tempo-reale
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Serial_Apologist
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                              • Dec 2010
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                              #15
                              The Goehr was nice to hear; but wasn't that very English piece composed as long ago as 1980?

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