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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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    • Sep 2011
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    1970s There & Then; Sat 4/2/17, 10:00pm

    The singer composer Julius Eastman (1940 - 90) is probably best remembered as the soloist in PMD's Eight Songs for a Mad King, but he was a prolific composer and his work is gradually being restored to performance. Last year's London Festival of Contemporary Music featured his work, and H&N tomorrow night presents a performance by Apartment House of his 1974 work Femenine. Not strictly speaking the most recent Music, but probably the first chance for many of us (myself included) to hear this piece, descriptions of which sound as if it's a great deal more "cutting edge" (bleeaaccchh!) than, say, much of the stuff that passes for "contemporary" in recent evening broadcasts.

    A recent review of the concerts here:

    Holland Park tube was closing early, and for fear of being stranded I left early, just as Apartment House were beginning to crank up Eastman’s joyous, riff-infused Stay on it. (I read on Twit…


    And there's a performance of Frederic Rzewski (b 1938)'s Coming Together from 1971.

    Music by Eastman and Rzewski performed at the 2016 London Contemporary Music Festival.
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  • Richard Barrett
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    • Jan 2016
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    #2
    That's a programme not to be missed I would say.

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    • Bryn
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      • Mar 2007
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      #3
      I will be listening intently to hear if the reciter in Coming Together gets tongue-tied, as did Fred at the HCMF Hoketus performance broadcast on Radio 3 some decades ago.
      Last edited by Bryn; 05-02-17, 12:39. Reason: Typo

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      • Richard Barrett
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        • Jan 2016
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        #4
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        as did Fred at the HCMF Hoketus performance broadcast on Radio 3 some decades ago.
        Was that the Round House performance? What I remember happening was that in between phrases he told some people at the front to stop talking.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
          Was that the Round House performance? What I remember happening was that in between phrases he told some people at the front to stop talking.
          "I am the very model of a modern major general"?

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          • Bryn
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            • Mar 2007
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            #6
            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
            Was that the Round House performance? What I remember happening was that in between phrases he told some people at the front to stop talking.
            I don't think so. In the case I now have transferred from cassette to CD-R he just got the stage of completeness of the text wrong around half way thorough and had to recover as best he could.

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            • Sydney Grew
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              • Mar 2007
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              #7
              And there's a performance of Frederic Rzewski (b 1938)'s Coming Together from 1971.
              One of those frightful transatlantic show-offs whose principal field of endeavour appears to be the invention of fancy titles. See here, if you do not believe me:



              A fellow to be avoided, gentlemen.

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              • Bryn
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                • Mar 2007
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                #8
                Originally posted by Sydney Grew View Post
                One of those frightful transatlantic show-offs whose principal field of endeavour appears to be the invention of fancy titles. See here, if you do not believe me:



                A fellow to be avoided, gentlemen.
                He does have a reputation as a bit of a grump,and he certainly does not suffer fools gladly. Perhaps you have met and that has coloured your opinion of the man. As a pianist, his recording of Stockhausen's Piano Piece X is a true classic. I have always got on well with both the man and his music.

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                • ahinton
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sydney Grew View Post
                  One of those frightful transatlantic show-offs whose principal field of endeavour appears to be the invention of fancy titles. See here, if you do not believe me:



                  A fellow to be avoided, gentlemen.
                  Why are you addressing only "gentlemen" here?

                  By "transatlantic" one presumes you to mean "American", so why not say so?

                  Who has he "frightened"?
                  Have you indeed met him? - and did he "frighten" you?

                  His The People United variations for piano, if a tad overlong and repetitive, is a major contribution to the piano repertoire. Have you heard him play the Hammerklavier Sonata with his own improvised cadenzas? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGyX5W9a_IE - or the Appassionata with the same? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbsRVw5v3Yk . Bizarre in places, perhaps, but by no means without interest...

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                  • Bryn
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                    • Mar 2007
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                    Why are you addressing only "gentlemen" here?

                    His The People United variations for piano, if a tad overlong and repetitive is a major contribution to the piano repertoire. Have you heard him play the Hammerklavier Sonata with his own improvised cadenzas? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGyX5W9a_IE - or the Appassionata with the same? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbsRVw5v3Yk . Bizarre, but not without interest...
                    I prefer to hear The People United ... extended to include the optional improvised cadenza. Ursula Oppens (no gentleman), who both commissioned it and gave the premier, did not originally take up the option to improvise a cadenza but has more recently given it a go:

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                    • Bryn
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      I will be listening intently to hear if the reciter in Coming Together gets tongue-tied, as did Fred at the HCMF Hoketus performance broadcast on Radio 3 some decades ago.
                      Heh, heh. A bit too ready to be secure at one point. What instrumentation was used for this performance? At times I thought I heard a Sheng (or was it a Melodica?). I liked the attacca into Attica, the applause notwithstanding.

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                      • Richard Barrett
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                        • Jan 2016
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        He does have a reputation as a bit of a grump,and he certainly does not suffer fools gladly. Perhaps you have met and that has coloured your opinion of the man. As a pianist, his recording of Stockhausen's Piano Piece X is a true classic. I have always got on well with both the man and his music.
                        Me too. The musical world is a better place for his presence and he is excellent company. And I'm reminded that at this time I don't have his Stockhausen recording, and consequently haven't heard it for decades. I must do something about that.

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                        • Boilk
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                          • Dec 2010
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                          #13
                          No comments so far on Julius Estman's Femenine. For 1974 it's a pretty substantial piece of Minimalism I thought.

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                          • ahinton
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                            Me too. The musical world is a better place for his presence and he is excellent company. And I'm reminded that at this time I don't have his Stockhausen recording, and consequently haven't heard it for decades. I must do something about that.
                            If you have any difficulty in sourcing a copy, please do not hesitate to let me know as I have the LP and would be happy to send it to you if you would like that.

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                            • MrGongGong
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sydney Grew View Post
                              One of those frightful transatlantic show-offs whose principal field of endeavour appears to be the invention of fancy titles. See here, if you do not believe me:



                              A fellow to be avoided, gentlemen.
                              Nonsense
                              Go for the sheep

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