ALERT: Sunday 22 May (today) 5.00 The Listening Service

[Serial_Apologist]

The RT blurb says:

'When is noise just noise, and when is it music? Is it just sound in the wrong place? Tom Service finds that, though we resent noises in the concert hall, music needs some noise in it to give it character. He also investigates the contemporary genre 'noise music' and considers noise in our daily lives. With contributions from Emily Cockayne, author of Hubbub: Filth, Noise and Stench in England 1600-1770, and to David Hendy, author of Noise: a Human History".

Any takers?

My definition would be that while some people say "That is music to my ears", noise is music only when it is intended to be.

[MrGongGong]

Thanks for this
Sounds interesting and an area that has been much discussed in recent years.

http://www.thewire.co.uk/shop/books/noise___music__a_history_by_paul_hegarty

for example

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2008/nov/10/squarepusher-paul-hegarty-noise

Rob Worby did a series a while back for R3 called (I think?) "Cacophony Now"

I BELIEVE THAT THE USE OF NOISE

Wherever we are, what we hear is mostly noise. When we ignore it, it disturbs us. When we listen to it, we find it fascinating. The sound of a truck at 50 m.p.h. Static between the stations. Rain. We want to capture and control these sounds, to use them, not as sound effeets, but as musical instruments. Every film studio has a library of »sound effects» recorded on film. With a film phonograph it is now possible to control the amplitude and frequeney of any one of these sounds and to give to it rhythms within or beyond the reach of anyone's imagination. Given four film phonographs, we can compose and perform a quartet for explosive motor, wind, heart beat, and landslide.

TO MAKE MUSIC
.............................

What John said

[Beef Oven!]

The RT blurb says:

'When is noise just noise, and when is it music? Is it just sound in the wrong place? Tom Service finds that, though we resent noises in the concert hall, music needs some noise in it to give it character. He also investigates the contemporary genre 'noise music' and considers noise in our daily lives. With contributions from Emily Cockayne, author of Hubbub: Filth, Noise and Stench in England 1600-1770, and to David Hendy, author of Noise: a Human History".

Any takers?

My definition would be that while some people say "That is music to my ears", noise is music only when it is intended to be.

Thanks for the alert. I shall definitely be tuning in at 5.00pm

[Beef Oven!]

Thanks for this
Sounds interesting and an area that has been much discussed in recent years.

http://www.thewire.co.uk/shop/books/noise___music__a_history_by_paul_hegarty

for example

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2008/nov/10/squarepusher-paul-hegarty-noise

Rob Worby did a series a while back for R3 called (I think?) "Cacophony Now"



What John said

Thanks

[Beef Oven!]

Dawn chorus and Mount Etna. Is this music, or noise?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36351921

[Serial_Apologist]

The "noise is just sound in the wrong place" reminds me of the horticulturalist's definition of weeds as being plants in the wrong place.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Dawn chorus and Mount Etna. Is this music, or noise?

Yes.

[Dave2002]

The "noise is just sound in the wrong place" reminds me of the horticulturalist's definition of weeds as being plants in the wrong place.

Another definition of a weed - "a very successful plant!"

[Serial_Apologist]

Very interesting programme, though as a "world in a grain of sound" type of person I do find the idea of self-engulfment in loud noise disturbing, even masochistic. Isn't this what the USAF inflicted on the Viet Cong?