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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    Guess what and where

    See (rather hazy) picture.

  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18014

    #2
    Interesting puzzle.

    Haven't a clue.

    Can of sardines with a music stand - Kirkwall! :-)

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      #3
      It looks just like a Choir Organ, with an elegant case, in the 'ruckpositiv' position. You'd expect to see the big main case with the Great display pipes on the balcony behind it. But there isn't one and never has been. The hint I'll give (for anyone who's interested) is that it's not just for show. It has proper pipes and winding (i.e. not a disguised electronic.)

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      • Guest

        #4
        I think we need another clue.....

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        • ardcarp
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11102

          #5
          Here's the answer. I'm not sure I would have guessed it. It is a proper pipe-organ built by Gray and Davidson in the mid-19th century. But it never had a keyboard and was operated by a barrel-organ mechanism which could play over 20 hymn tunes and a few psalm chants. (How do you fit the words of a Psalm into someone turning a handle?) These were occasionally installed in very rural areas where no organists could be found. This one has very fine casework, which I guess is a bit unusual.

          This one, apparently restored to working order, is in Muchelney Church, Somereset: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church...aul,_Muchelney

          The site is fascinating because the church is situated next to the ruins of Muchelney Abbey. It's now run by English Heritage. It is well worth a visit, because the ground plan of the Abbey (victim of Henry VIII) is still clear, and one original building, the monks' lavatorium still exists!

          About Muchelney Abbey (it's right out in the Styx) https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/...chelney-abbey/

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37674

            #6
            Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
            Here's the answer. I'm not sure I would have guessed it. It is a proper pipe-organ built by Gray and Davidson in the mid-19th century. But it never had a keyboard and was operated by a barrel-organ mechanism which could play over 20 hymn tunes and a few psalm chants. (How do you fit the words of a Psalm into someone turning a handle?) These were occasionally installed in very rural areas where no organists could be found. This one has very fine casework, which I guess is a bit unusual.

            This one, apparently restored to working order, is in Muchelney Church, Somereset: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church...aul,_Muchelney

            The site is fascinating because the church is situated next to the ruins of Muchelney Abbey. It's now run by English Heritage. It is well worth a visit, because the ground plan of the Abbey (victim of Henry VIII) is still clear, and one original building, the monks' lavatorium still exists!

            About Muchelney Abbey (it's right out in the Styx) https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/...chelney-abbey/
            Good subject for a thread; I'm surprised no one else has taken it up. Any cameras out there?

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            • Old Grumpy
              Full Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 3611

              #7
              Likely to be a bit damp in the Styx...


              ...drier in the sticks, perhaps

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30281

                #8
                Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                Likely to be a bit damp in the Styx...
                Pretty damp at Muchelney in the middle of the Somerset Levels. It was an island in the Roman and post-Roman era, and became so again in recent times as a result of flooding.

                "The barrel organ above the vestry door on the south side is a working organ. It was used in the church until 1872. The organ is tuned and in full working order and is played on August Bank Holiday Monday when the church Fete is held in a garden opposite the church! In the floods of 2014, when the village became an island, the church acted as post office, doctors surgery, shop, and R&R for the fire crew operating the ferry boat, as well as hosting ‘flood lunches’ and of, course, our regular services, the Vicar arriving by boat!"

                An evocative setting, in front of Muchelney Abbey and opposite the medieval Priest’s House, internally, the unique ceiling was painted in the 1600s with angels in Tudor costumes.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Old Grumpy
                  Full Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 3611

                  #9
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Pretty damp at Muchelney in the middle of the Somerset Levels. It was an island in the Roman and post-Roman era, and became so again in recent times as a result of flooding.

                  "The barrel organ above the vestry door on the south side is a working organ. It was used in the church until 1872. The organ is tuned and in full working order and is played on August Bank Holiday Monday when the church Fete is held in a garden opposite the church! In the floods of 2014, when the village became an island, the church acted as post office, doctors surgery, shop, and R&R for the fire crew operating the ferry boat, as well as hosting ‘flood lunches’ and of, course, our regular services, the Vicar arriving by boat!"

                  https://www.nationalchurchestrust.or...paul-muchelney
                  Interesting!

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                  • Vox Humana
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1250

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                    Likely to be a bit damp in the Styx...


                    ...drier in the sticks, perhaps
                    Yes, I've been fooled by that too. I always used to assume it was a reference to the river of Hades and I still think that has more logic than 'sticks'. Nevertheless, OED only recognises the latter, which is apparently of US origin, and cites no example earlier than 1899. All the more reason for promoting 'Styx', methinks.

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                    • ardcarp
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11102

                      #11
                      If you saw the Somerset levels flooded a few years ago the word Styx would not have sprung to mind....i.e. impossible to cross, Charon or not.

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10921

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        If you saw the Somerset levels flooded a few years ago the word Styx would not have sprung to mind....i.e. impossible to cross, Charon or not.
                        Does Charon moor his boat in the boondocks?

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