Nicholson at Portsmouth Cathedral

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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    Nicholson at Portsmouth Cathedral



    Not sure the text makes total sense...but there are some interesting piccies. Note the nautical shackles holding up the horizontal trumpet.
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    Many thanks for this, ardy.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #3
      Ah the nostalgia. Back in 1969, or possibly earlyish 1970, the Scratch Orchestra performed some of the then completed Paragraphs of Cardew's The Great Digest (I think it was before he re-translated the title as The Great Learning), these included Paragraph 1, so the organ came into play. One dissapointment, as I recall, was that the pneumatics were controled by an electically operated valve, so when switched off at the end, the air just stopped. No slow winding down of pressure with the consequent acoustic anomolies hoped for in the score. A fine instrument otherwise, though. While I was unable to attend, and no recording of it was made, I was later advised by someone at Portsmouth Polytechnic that My Mass Medium* (or at least sections from it) were also performed there by students associated with the newly formed Portsmout Sinfonia (though not performing under that label).

      * To some extent a 'parody mass' in that it not only sought to tilt at the Christian mass, but also Cardew's compositional techniques employed in The Great Digest.

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      • Braunschlag
        Full Member
        • Jul 2017
        • 484

        #4
        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
        http://www.nicholsonorgans.co.uk/por...ral-hampshire/

        Not sure the text makes total sense...but there are some interesting piccies. Note the nautical shackles holding up the horizontal trumpet.
        And that’s some chamade on the Nicholson videos, it fair rattles round what seems to be a very generous acoustic.

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        • Dave2002
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 18014

          #5
          Originally posted by Braunschlag View Post
          And that’s some chamade on the Nicholson videos, it fair rattles round what seems to be a very generous acoustic.
          Interesting how one learns new words from this site - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charade

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          • ardcarp
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #6
            Trompette en Chamade (Fr), Trompeta Real (Sp) and Horizontal Trumpet (UK) all mean the same thing; a rank of trumpets poking horizontally out of the case. There was an English example in Ludlow Parish Church (when I last played it c 1968!) but this seems to have disappeared inside the case. There is also one at Dunster in Somerset...still there, I think. They are quite commonly seen in France and Spain.

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            • researcher
              Full Member
              • Jun 2017
              • 4

              #7
              There was a Tuba chamade on the former Mander in Portsmouth RC Cathedral, though disappeared when the instrument was replaced.

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              • oddoneout
                Full Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9188

                #8
                Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                Trompette en Chamade (Fr), Trompeta Real (Sp) and Horizontal Trumpet (UK) all mean the same thing; a rank of trumpets poking horizontally out of the case. There was an English example in Ludlow Parish Church (when I last played it c 1968!) but this seems to have disappeared inside the case. There is also one at Dunster in Somerset...still there, I think. They are quite commonly seen in France and Spain.
                Is that the same idea as the Orchestral Trumpet at Wimborne Minster? http://www.wimborneminster.org.uk/126/organ.html
                As a child on a family holiday in that part of the world I remember seeing and hearing it, and somewhere in the family there is a single of it which my mother bought at the time.

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                • Pulcinella
                  Host
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 10921

                  #9
                  There's a fine example in this picture of the Metropolitan Cathedral organ in Liverpool:

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