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  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12986

    St Thomas Fifth Ave NYC

    Thursday, 24th 10.30 p.m. GMT
    LIVE
    Howells / Coll REg
    Bullock / Give me the wings of faith

    If members are interested I can post the St T programme regularly. Their webcasts are free and excellently balanced. Live service as it happens.
  • decantor
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 521

    #2
    I find their live webcasts occur at times inconvenient for me, and therefore always look to the recorded version. However, the latest web interface is, in my view, less user-friendly than its predecessor as it involves constantly dodging to and fro between pages.

    If you are prepared, Draco, to give us a weekly summary of the basic music lists (perhaps just Introit-Service-Anthem) currently available, I for one would be most grateful (as I am for your CE listing). However, I fear this may require more work on your part than you envisage: the St T presentation is not conducive to simple copy and paste.

    There is another way in which I think STNYC misses a trick. In the old days, I used to make a (very modest) donation occasionally in gratitude for such excellent music gratis. That has now become impossible: I exchanged emails with the good lady in charge of such things at the church, and even she could find no simple way for a Brit to donate casually on a whim. Now, it seems, only a pledge or stock options will do. Why don't they just open a Paypal account? They surely deserve some recognition for sharing their choir (and Fr Meade's sermons??!!) with the world.

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 12986

      #3
      Will do my best on cut paste etc.

      I certainly agree about the change in their page format. Very odd decision.

      Hadn't realised that about donations. I sometimes do pledge if I can afford to, but haven't done a one off donation. Worth getting in touch with Fr Meade over it direct? He welcomes the webcast congregation every service, so maybe some appeal might help?

      It's Fr Austin's homilies for me..........

      And I love the applause after particularly rousing voluntaries.

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      • Keraulophone
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1967

        #4
        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
        And I love the applause after particularly rousing voluntaries.
        Our Dean (now Emeritus) expressly forbade this public display of gratitude to the organist when it seemed to be becoming habitual adulation, reminding the congregation that they were at Divine Service, of which the voluntary was an integral part, and not at a concert.

        Two Deans later, the applause has gradually returned, particularly after Sunday morning Eucharist, but with a greater degree of discrimination. Of course, a voluntary that may begin loudly, or contain a rousing (Howellsian) central section but ends softly, never receives applause, despite its having just received an admirable rendition.

        BTW, a beautifully sung service from St Thomas, NYC yesterday. Thanks for the tip-off, Draco. Scotty is clearly continuing to deliver his magic. Plenty of time and space to allow the music to glow, though thankfully less than he had to contend with at St Paul's. Webcast balance generally well judged, though fine trebles occasionally swamping the back rows: unlikely in situ, I'd have thought. The wailing (NYPD ?) siren at the beginning of the Sanctus located the event authentically... a bit like our seagulls!

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        • DracoM
          Host
          • Mar 2007
          • 12986

          #5
          And baby yowling at the offertory etc?? Even Fr Meade slightly held up!

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          • DracoM
            Host
            • Mar 2007
            • 12986

            #6
            As promised:

            As in UK, it is half term, so the boys are away.
            BUT
            the plainchant psalm singing of the St T Men is exemplary IMO, and there is quiet, dignity and repose at the cnetre of their expert services.

            SUNDAY 11:00 CHORAL EUCHARIST sung by The Gentlemen of The Choir
            27 February
            Service: Missa Ancor che col partire - de Monte
            Epiphany 8 Psalm: 131
            Anthems: O quam suavis - Byrd
            Hear the voice and prayer - Tallis

            4:00 CHORAL EVENSONG sung by The Gentlemen of The Choir
            Responses: Harris
            Psalm: 146 Service:
            Canticles: E.W. Naylor in D
            Anthem: Seek Him that maketh the seven stars - Elgar

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            • DracoM
              Host
              • Mar 2007
              • 12986

              #7
              As promised - an occasional selection form their upcoming services:

              SUNDAY 11:00 CHORAL EUCHARIST20 March
              Service: Messa da capella (1651) - Monteverdi
              Lent 2 Psalm: 121
              1 Anthems: Domine, exaudi orationem meam (à 10) - G. Gabrieli
              2. Christe, adoramus te - Monteverdi

              4:00 CHORAL EVENSONG
              Responses: Ebdon
              Psalm: 4
              Service: The Second Service - Gibbons
              Anthem: O Lord in thy wrath - Gibbons

              Incidentally, the Ash Wednesday service - inc Allegri Mis and a terriifc performance of Emendemus in melius - is available from their website on request.
              And other of their services to date are available pretty well from the start of term until now.

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              • ardcarp
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11102

                #8
                Our Dean (now Emeritus) expressly forbade this public display of gratitude to the organist when it seemed to be becoming habitual adulation, reminding the congregation that they were at Divine Service
                Anyone know how long ago it became OK to clap the voluntary? The only time it happened to me was after a wedding. The couple (musicians) had asked for the Mulet Carillon Sortie afterwards. I hadn't played it (or indeed the organ) for ages, so did a hurried resurrection job on the basis that after the first couple of pages everyone would have fled the church. So on page 4 I threw caution to the winds and just went for it....until a glance in the mirror showed a still full church. The *******s had instructed the cong to stay for the voluntary. I think the round of applause was for effort rather than achievement.

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                • bach736
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 213

                  #9
                  You may like to know that the Memorial Service for George Shearing is a live webcast this evening (Wednesday 23rd March) at 2110 hrs GMT.
                  Last edited by bach736; 23-03-11, 21:22. Reason: time change to include pre- service organ music

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                  • bach736
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 213

                    #10
                    'George Shearing Memorial Service' update.

                    This is now available online at:

                    Wednesday, March 23, 2011 @ 5:30 p.m.-6:30 p.m.Join us for a choral Memorial Service for Sir George Shearing, OBE, long-time member of Saint Thomas Church. Sir George, a jazz pianist who played for three US presidents as well as for Queen Elizabeth, died of cardiac arrest on February 14. He was 91 years old. The Memorial takes the place of Choral Evensong [...]


                    Some half decent Faure, a beautiful Psalm 23 to Hylton Stewart, the entire 20' Shearing sequence on American hymn tunes plus 'Lullaby of Birdland' and the best BWV 572 I have ever heard. Despite being destined for the scrap heap, the St Thomas organ sounds magnificent. A witty and moving tribute to the great jazzman from Rector Andrew Mead in the church where he worshipped.

                    Well worth a listen.

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12986

                      #11
                      And a daringly slow Faure 'In Paradisum' pretty well sung.

                      What did you think of the Bach BWV 572 Fantasia?

                      Deffo well worth a listen.

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                      • DracoM
                        Host
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 12986

                        #12
                        BTW, please note that NYC winter time shift has ended, such that NYC 5.30 p.m. is actually 4.30 to calculate your five hour time lag.
                        Hence UK time St T Evensongs start at 9.30 p.m. live, and not 10.30

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                        • bach736
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 213

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=DracoM;What did you think of the Bach BWV 572 Fantasia?[/QUOTE]

                          I thought it outstanding. The precision, articulation, phrasing and registration transformed it for me. The inter-related structure of the movements shone through and the third section achieved an almost ethereal quality that took it to a new level. It was like hearing it for the first time. A fitting end in every way.

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                          • DracoM
                            Host
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 12986

                            #14
                            Absolutely agree. Fleet fingered but architectural. Gripping.

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                            • DracoM
                              Host
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 12986

                              #15
                              Sunday, 27th March
                              Evensong at St T NYC
                              Howells Gloucester Service / Like as the hart.

                              Don't forget NYC time is now an hour earlier than on the schedule on their website, BUT where the heck it is when OUR clocks change.......back to 5.30 their time again?

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