BBC Singers: Music for Advent: December 4th

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  • jean
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7100

    BBC Singers: Music for Advent: December 4th

    Have we really not got a thread about this?



    They aren't my favourite group for early music, but I thought they did the Palestrina Surge, Illuminare very well indeed. And the Bax Mater ora filium was superb.
  • Finzi4ever
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 603

    #2
    Originally posted by jean View Post
    Have we really not got a thread about this?



    They aren't my favourite group for early music, but I thought they did the Palestrina Surge, Illuminare very well indeed. And the Bax Mater ora filium was superb.
    ditto the Howells.
    The Tavener needed rather more architectural space, resonance, or even recording distance from the W-end Marcussen to have been effective for me (prob imposs in that chapel which I know and have recorded in).

    I don't think I'll be learning the Muhly O Antiphon Preludes any Advent soon.

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 13009

      #3
      The concert took place at Tonbridge School today, Tuesday 4th Dec 2012

      Here is the programme:

      NICO MUHLY O Sapientia (O Antiphon Preludes, No 1)
      CECILIA MCDOWALL Cantate, Astra
      NICO MUHLY O Adonai (O Antiphon Preludes, No 2)
      PALESTRINA Surge illuminare
      NICO MUHLY O Radix Jesse (O Antiphon Preludes, No 3)
      BACH Chorale Prelude Nun Komm der heiden Heiland (BVW 659)
      NICO MUHLY O Clavis David (O Antiphon Preludes, No 4)
      BAX Mater ora filium
      NICO MUHLY O Oriens (O Antiphon Preludes, No 5)
      BOB CHILCOTT The Rose in the Middle of Winter
      NICO MUHLY O Rex Gentium (O Antiphon Preludes, No 6)
      HOWELLS Three Carol-Anthems
      NICO MUHLY O Emmanuel (O Antiphon Preludes, No 7)
      JOHN TAVENER A Christmas Proclamation: God is with us

      BBC Singers

      James McVinnie organ
      David Hill conductor

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6493

        #4
        Perhaps for the first time in Radio 3 history only two people listened to this broadcast.

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        • decantor
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          • Dec 2010
          • 521

          #5
          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          Perhaps for the first time in Radio 3 history only two people listened to this broadcast.
          I would have made it three - but the piano tuner was here, and it really wouldn't have been fair............

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #6
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            Perhaps for the first time in Radio 3 history only two people listened to this broadcast.
            I didn't see it but am quite keen on Nico Muhly so thanks for letting me know

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            • Keraulophone
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1996

              #7
              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              Perhaps for the first time in Radio 3 history only two people listened to this broadcast.
              Wearying of the Sops, I pressed the function button (as opposed to the John's button, ard) after the Bax (great piece), and enjoyed a Gabriel Jackson CD sung by St Mary's, Edinburgh.

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              • Roger Judd
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                • Apr 2012
                • 237

                #8
                Make it three ...! I'm afraid the organ pieces, Bach excepted, didn't do much for me, but I thought the three Howells pieces, the Palestrina, and especially the wonderful Bax piece were very well worth the listen - what a fine piece that is - thanks Singers. Having done the Tavener piece for more Christmas Eves than I care to remember at Windsor I had hoped not to have heard it again - sorry John!
                RJ

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                • jean
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7100

                  #9
                  Nobody's mentioned the Bob Chilcott...

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                  • subcontrabass
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2780

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Roger Judd View Post
                    Having done the Tavener piece for more Christmas Eves than I care to remember at Windsor I had hoped not to have heard it again - sorry John!
                    RJ
                    Not one of his better pieces, it somehow misses the thrill that this item should have in the Christmas Eve service, when the choir bursts into song for the first time with this at the Christmas Vigil service after about ten minutes of solo psalm reading. Compare, for instance, with this version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I64tfAE1mQ

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                    • Gabriel Jackson
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                      • May 2011
                      • 686

                      #11
                      Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                      Not one of his better pieces, it somehow misses the thrill that this item should have in the Christmas Eve service, when the choir bursts into song for the first time with this at the Christmas Vigil service after about ten minutes of solo psalm reading. Compare, for instance, with this version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I64tfAE1mQ
                      Careful - they're singing with vibrato, and you know how badly that goes down here!

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                      • rauschwerk
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1488

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        Perhaps for the first time in Radio 3 history only two people listened to this broadcast.
                        I caught some of it in the car. I liked what I heard and hope to catch up with it all today.

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                        • Alison
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6493

                          #13
                          Thanks to this thread I am intrigued by the Bax now

                          Looks as if DracoM may have heeded the advice not to listen if certain to rocket bomb later !

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                          • Gabriel Jackson
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                            • May 2011
                            • 686

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            Thanks to this thread I am intrigued by the Bax now
                            It's an amazing piece! Supposedly inspired by his hearing of the Byrd 5-part Mass - I don't see that connection at all. I wonder if he had heard, or at least seen, any big Votive Antiphons from the Eton Choirbook, a much more likely stimulus, to my mind.

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              #15
                              The Bax is a most unusual piece. It's described as 'double choir' yet sometimes the parts go divisi as well as in that high soprano triad (for which the BBCS miraculously found a straight-ish sound). Singing Ora Mater Filium is a strange experience as the lines seem to get gradually more complex...and there is a lot of 'business' going on...more, one wonders, than the average listener can comprehend. The BBCS seemed to be good in the quieter bits, but as usual the texture got a bit obscure when they were all belting it out. There is a KCC recording where all is much more transparent. No doubt others too. The BBCS pressed the so-called 'John's button' rather unsubtly, I thought, and on the whole the piece seemed more a patchwork than an entity in their hands.

                              Shoot me now, someone.....

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