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  • mercia
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    • Nov 2010
    • 8920

    #46
    http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?6916-Difficult-choral-music-opinions-on

    if D/E/C# mean D minor at bar 3 I don't see why they don't mean D minor at bar 8 - what key are we in at bar 8 ?

    I now understand what you meant by "Tippett .. gives the treble soloist as much help as possible" - only with his first note and not thereafter

    if you're telling me a scale of D minor does contain A flat, I've been under a misapprehension - apologies
    Last edited by mercia; 29-11-12, 15:19.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #47
      Originally posted by Gabriel Jackson View Post
      It's a shame so few of those recordings made it so CD, I agree. The BBC Singers regularly do that kind of thing, of course, but a lot of the pieces witten for the John Alldis Choir do seem to have disappeared from anyone's repertoire, don't they?
      Yes; the emphasis today seems to be on small vocal ensembles such as Exaudi and the Neue Vocalisten Stuttgart - and James Weeks (who founded Exaudi) continues the astonishing work begun by James Wood with the New London Chamber Choir.

      Does the London Sinfonietta Choir still exist? Clive Wearing got tremendous performances from them at around the same time as the John Alldis Choir.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Gabriel Jackson
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        • May 2011
        • 686

        #48
        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        if D/E/C# mean D minor at bar 3 I don't see why they don't mean D minor at bar 8 - what key are we in at bar 8 ?

        I now understand what you meant by "Tippett .. gives the treble soloist as much help as possible" - only with his first note and not thereafter

        if you're telling me a scale of D minor does contain A flat, I've been under a misapprehension - apologies
        You are certainly under a misapprehension in that you think C has no place in a scale of D minor.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          #49
          Am I seeing double?

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          • mercia
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            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            #50
            Originally posted by Gabriel Jackson View Post
            You are certainly under a misapprehension in that you think C has no place in a scale of D minor.

            I expect my confusion arose when you told me that D/E/C# [bar 3] was still clearly D minor

            yes I know there are melodic and harmonic minor scales

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26527

              #51
              This seems to have spun out bizarrely into a separate, duplicate thread... I thought I was suddenly seeing double just now on the 'What's New?' page... and I haven't touched a drop today...
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37641

                #52
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                This seems to have spun out bizarrely into a separate, duplicate thread... I thought I was suddenly seeing double just now on the 'What's New?' page... and I haven't touched a drop today...
                It's of minor importance, Cal.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  Am I seeing double?
                  It's "The Choir" Board, Alpie - think of it as counterpoint!
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26527

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    It's of minor importance, Cal.
                    You're clearly feeling sharp today, S_A... whereas I feel unaccountably a little flat...
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • MrGongGong
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      #55
                      The saddest of all keys ..........

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                      • Gabriel Jackson
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                        • May 2011
                        • 686

                        #56
                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        I expect my confusion arose when you told me that D/E/C# [bar 3] was still clearly D minor

                        yes I know there are melodic and harmonic minor scales
                        I'm glad you've discovered that.

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26527

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          Am I seeing double?
                          I had the same thought...
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • mercia
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Gabriel Jackson View Post
                            I'm glad you've discovered that.
                            indeed, a long time ago

                            nonetheless I'm glad you're glad
                            Last edited by mercia; 29-11-12, 18:27.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37641

                              #59
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              The saddest of all keys ..........

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgViOqGJEvM
                              Not the saddest of all love pumps though...

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37641

                                #60
                                It's also compliant with quantum physics that the same thing can be going on in two different places simultaneously.

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