Advent Service from St John's: 2 December, 4pm

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  • mangerton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3346

    #16
    [QUOTE=Caliban;228309][COLOR="#0000FF"]Looking forward to this - it's the cue to start on the Christmas cards, get the foreign ones all written, at least, for early sending... Shall make sure to be in and get scribbling after 'Veni Emmanuel'... What a great tune that is (and the Ord 'Adam' to follow ). Not so sure about the rest...


    Thanks for posting. I'm looking forward to this too. Agree your two "likes" at the start. I could well do without the Rutter. Helmsley though is a great tune, and the excerpt from Rachmaninoff's Vespers is very moving.

    It seems to have been a few years since they did Gibbons' This is the record of John, which is a pity.

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    • Simon

      #17
      If they can't or won't do it live, then the broadcast should be given to a foundation that can.

      I've always been a fan of John's, ever since the wonderful GG, but there are several cathedrals around the country that could make an equally good job of such a service.

      Re Record of John, I think there will be many that agree with you, Mangerton. But they have a target for the new and the trendy, so such great works are pushed out, I'm afraid.

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      • ardcarp
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11102

        #18
        Simon. I'm inclined to agree with you that if we can't have a live service from John's, then we ought to have it from somewhere else. But I would hardly call the bill of fare 'new and trendy' ! I've no idea what the new commission will be like but I can't see anything else on the list that is trendy exactly. I don't think William Whitehead's piece is likely to be spectacularly avant garde. Let's not forget that in Gibbons' time it was the norm for the 'organist' (for want of a better title) to be a composer and to write much of the stuff to be sung...i.e. it was contemporary.

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        • Miles Coverdale
          Late Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 639

          #19
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          Oh sorry, I didn't know you had a normal way...! I just noticed the listing on the R3 schedule and copied and pasted. The line spacing isn't ideal, I agree. If you have a more readily-legible source, feel free. (Or copy it into a PM and I can amend my post!)... Didn't mean to tread on toes!
          Blue text in bold isn't the easiest on the eye, perhaps.
          My boxes are positively disintegrating under the sheer weight of ticks. Ed Reardon

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          • Vile Consort
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 696

            #20
            And, of course, much of Buxtehude's music was lost because a (not very much) later pastor threw it all out, declaring, "there's nothing so old as old music"!

            Full Term at Cambridge ends on Friday, so the undergraduates will be heading off home. They will probably be getting kicked out of their rooms to make way for conferences. I am sure in my day we could stay for the whole term, not just Full Term plus a few days either end, which seems to be the case nowadays.

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26575

              #21
              Originally posted by Miles Coverdale View Post
              Blue text in bold isn't the easiest on the eye, perhaps.
              Noted & sorted
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Alison
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 6479

                #22
                Having slept on it, maybe after all a recording from St Johns would be preferable to a live offering from most other institutions. I'm hoping for tip-top engineering as compensation.

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                • Simon

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                  Let's not forget that in Gibbons' time it was the norm for the 'organist' (for want of a better title) to be a composer and to write much of the stuff to be sung...i.e. it was contemporary.
                  Yes, you're right I suppose.

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                  • Simon

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Alison View Post
                    Having slept on it, maybe after all a recording from St Johns would be preferable to a live offering from most other institutions.
                    Having drifted up, partly working and partly wandering about, from the West Country a couple of weeks ago and having deliberately made time to drop in to two "other institutions", I can assure you that your use of the word "most" was very wise! For both of these were superb. Great repertoire, too.

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                    • subcontrabass
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 2780

                      #25
                      Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                      the excerpt from Rachmaninoff's Vespers is very moving.
                      But totally non-seasonal. The text is part of a service used on Saturday evenings and on the eves of lesser feasts throughout the year. Why do they not look for something that is appropriate to the occasion?

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                      • orbis factor

                        #26
                        Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                        But totally non-seasonal. The text is part of a service used on Saturday evenings and on the eves of lesser feasts throughout the year. Why do they not look for something that is appropriate to the occasion?
                        But still an Ave Maria

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                        • Il Grande Inquisitor
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 961

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Vile Consort View Post
                          Full Term at Cambridge ends on Friday, so the undergraduates will be heading off home. They will probably be getting kicked out of their rooms to make way for conferences. I am sure in my day we could stay for the whole term, not just Full Term plus a few days either end, which seems to be the case nowadays.
                          Yes, this note from St John's Chapel website makes this point clear:

                          This year the College will hold two Advent Carol Services on the 24 November 2012 at 6.00pm and 25 November 2012 at 4.00pm (a week before Advent owing to the way the University Term is this year). The Sunday Service will be recorded for broadcast by BBC Radio 3 at 4pm on Advent Sunday, 2 December.

                          Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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                          • weston752
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 58

                            #28
                            [QUOTE=mangerton;228449] I could well do without the Rutter.

                            I would have thought this is one piece of Rutter that we could very much do with - a sensitive and reflective setting of John Audelay's words, being performed by the choir for which it was written.

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                            • mangerton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3346

                              #29
                              Originally posted by orbis factor View Post
                              But still an Ave Maria
                              Thank you, orbis factor. That is what I had in mind.

                              weston 752 #28 - This could well be the exceptional piece of Rutter's which proves (tests?) the rule. I suppose I must give him the benefit of the doubt. We'll find out next week.

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                              • Gabriel Jackson
                                Full Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 686

                                #30
                                Trinity College, Cambridge's Advent Service is live online (video, not just audio) right now http://www.trinitycollegechoir.com/webcasts/live-video/

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