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  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12993

    CE Sheffield Cathedral June 27th 2012

    CE Sheffield Cathedral


    Order of Service:


    Introit: Vast Ocean of Light (Jonathan Dove) (Choirbook for the Queen)
    Responses: Leighton
    Psalms: 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131 (Garrett, Turle, Goss, Garrett, Walford Davies, Rhodes)
    First Lesson: Job 29: 1-20
    Office Hymn: Palms of Glory (Palms of Glory)
    Canticles: Edington Service (Grayston Ives)
    Second Lesson: Romans 12: 9-end
    Anthem: Lord, thou hast been our refuge (Bairstow)
    Final Hymn: Ye holy angels bright (Darwall's 148th)



    Organ Voluntary: Chorale Fantasia on "O God our help in ages past" (Parry)



    Anthony Gowing (Assistant Director of Music)
    Neil Taylor (Director of Music)






    Hope they like psalm singing.
  • Simon

    #2
    "Hope they like psalm singing."

    Most good choirs do, and IIRC Sheffield's last broadcast invited some considerable praise.

    However, it wouldn't matter either way because it's only forty-odd verses, less than many other evenings, and the fact that you get chance to sing six chants means you don't get bored!

    We had some luscious chants for these: the Turle/Purcell one for De Profundis that a lot of places use was a big favourite of ours. Major drama: unaccompanied in the stillness of a hushed cathedral, with those awesome chromatics. Congregation used to be entranced...

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      #3
      I wonder if someone 'in the know' would be able to post up details of Sheffield's choral foundation/set-up? In the North (well, what I call the North) there seem to be quite a few innovative arrangements. And if anyone admits to anorak- wearing, how about a quick run down of the organ at Sheffield?

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      • subcontrabass
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2780

        #4
        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
        I wonder if someone 'in the know' would be able to post up details of Sheffield's choral foundation/set-up? In the North (well, what I call the North) there seem to be quite a few innovative arrangements. And if anyone admits to anorak- wearing, how about a quick run down of the organ at Sheffield?
        The Sheffield Cathedral website indicates that this service will be sung by girls and men. The organ is electronic.

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        • DracoM
          Host
          • Mar 2007
          • 12993

          #5
          PEDAL
          Sub Bass
          Montre
          Soubasse
          Violone
          Flute
          Quinte
          Principal
          Bass Flute
          Tierce
          Quinte
          Septieme
          Flute
          Open Flute
          Mixture
          Contra Bombarde
          Bombarde
          Clarion
          Shawm
          Great to Pedal
          Swell to Pedal
          Choir to Pedal
          Solo to Pedal
          Gt & Ped pistons

          32
          16
          16
          16
          16

          10 2/3
          8
          8
          6 2/5
          5 1/3
          4 4/7
          4
          2
          IV
          32
          16
          8
          4


          SOLO (enclosed)
          Violon-basse
          Harmonic Flute
          Gamba
          Violes CĂ©lestes
          Concert Flute
          Grand Cornet
          Cor Anglais
          Tuba Mirabilis (unenc)
          Tremulant
          Octave
          Unison Off
          Sub Octave

          16
          8
          8
          8
          4
          V
          8
          8
          Eight thumb pistons to Great )
          Eight thumb pistons to Swell )
          Eight thumb pistons to Choir ) all adjustable by capture system
          Eight thumb pistons to Solo ) with thirty-two long-term memories
          Eight toe pistons to Swell† )
          Eight toe pistons to Pedal‡ )
          Sixteen general thumb pistons )

          General cancel thumb piston
          10 thumb and 4 toe piston reversers
          General piston sequencer (with on/off switch)
          Separate divisional (12) and general piston (99) memory levels
          2 headphone sockets
          MIDI recorder
          Piston 'sequencer plus' (3 off) and 'sequencer minus' (2 off) pistons on piston rails
          Toe piston 'sequencer plus' on wooden block above toe sweep
          Switch to transfer choir department to nave loudspeakers
          Pedal divide
          † switchable to generals 1 - 8

          ‡ switchable to generals 9 - 16

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          • terratogen
            Full Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 113

            #6
            I'm not 'in the know,' but the cathedral's website has a fairly informative page about the music department here and another about choristerships here; but in short: Sheffield has no affiliated choir school, so all of the choristers—sixteen boys aged 8-13 and fourteen girls aged 11-18, all under the direction of Neil Taylor—come to the choir from their local schools. They appear to rehearse once or twice a week and then again just before sung services.

            The adults are eight professional Songmen and four Student Songmen, undergraduates from the university. The girls sing two (occasionally more) services per week, one of which is without the men's voices; the boys sing four (occasionally fewer) services per week; and the men sing one weekly service without treble voices. There is also a small, adult chamber ensemble called the Cathedral Consort, but it doesn't seem to sing services so much as concerts and other special events.

            In any case. I'm looking forward to this service and am particularly eager to hear the Bairstow anthem and Jonathan Dove's setting of the introit text.

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            • subcontrabass
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 2780

              #7
              Originally posted by DracoM View Post
              PEDAL
              Sub Bass

              ...


              ‡ switchable to generals 9 - 16
              Those who want can find the full specification of the Phoenix organ here: http://www.sheffieldcathedral.org/mu...dral-music.php

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              • Roger Judd
                Full Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 237

                #8
                There was talk, not so long ago, of re-locating the Cavaillé-Coll organ in the Parr Hall Warrington into Sheffield Cathedral. I don't know all the ins and outs, but the Hall was, apparently, keen to dispose of the C-C instrument, one of the very few in the country, and the Cathedral acoustic at Sheffield would have done wonders for the organ. Is that idea still a possibility? Does anyone know?

                No Cathedral should be relying on an electronic facsimile, surely?!
                RJ

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                • ardcarp
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11102

                  #9
                  Draco...too much information! RJ...I wholeheartedly agree. But they obviously wanted an eclectic instrument with all the bells and whistles on a very limited budget. One might have thought that with all that industrial wealth oop there in t'North there might be some cash swilling about. After all, Bulmer's Cider (I think) dobbed Hereford quite a bit for its organ at one time.

                  Thanks terratogen for the choir info.

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                  • Roger Judd
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 237

                    #10
                    Yes, indeed - Roy Massey, then organist at Hereford, got the Bulmer family onboard in 1978 for the Harrison & Harrison rebuild of the Willis organ and, to this day, a rather splendid wooden carved woodpecker has pride-of-place on the front of the organ.
                    RJ

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12993

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                      Draco...too much information! RJ...I wholeheartedly agree. But they obviously wanted an eclectic instrument with all the bells and whistles on a very limited budget. One might have thought that with all that industrial wealth oop there in t'North there might be some cash swilling about. After all, Bulmer's Cider (I think) dobbed Hereford quite a bit for its organ at one time.

                      Thanks terratogen for the choir info.

                      Apologies if this organ info was felt to be OTT.

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                      • Magnificat

                        #12
                        Originally posted by terratogen View Post
                        I'm not 'in the know,' but the cathedral's website has a fairly informative page about the music department here and another about choristerships here; but in short: Sheffield has no affiliated choir school, so all of the choristers—sixteen boys aged 8-13 and fourteen girls aged 11-18, all under the direction of Neil Taylor—come to the choir from their local schools. They appear to rehearse once or twice a week and then again just before sung services.

                        The adults are eight professional Songmen and four Student Songmen, undergraduates from the university. The girls sing two (occasionally more) services per week, one of which is without the men's voices; the boys sing four (occasionally fewer) services per week; and the men sing one weekly service without treble voices. There is also a small, adult chamber ensemble called the Cathedral Consort, but it doesn't seem to sing services so much as concerts and other special events.

                        In any case. I'm looking forward to this service and am particularly eager to hear the Bairstow anthem and Jonathan Dove's setting of the introit text.
                        ardcarp et al

                        I may be wrong but certainly in recent years Sheffield has only ever broadcast CE using girls and men.

                        VCC

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                        • terratogen
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 113

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                          After all, Bulmer's Cider (I think) dobbed Hereford quite a bit for its organ at one time.
                          I hope this is true. All the more reason to enjoy the music from Hereford and the cider from Bulmers!

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                          • mangerton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3346

                            #14
                            Originally posted by terratogen View Post
                            I hope this is true. All the more reason to enjoy the music from Hereford and the cider from Bulmers!
                            Yes, as Roger Judd said above, it is. I remember seeing it when I visited Hereford Cathedral a few years ago - that, and the Mappa Mundi.

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                            • subcontrabass
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2780

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Magnificat View Post
                              ardcarp et al

                              I may be wrong but certainly in recent years Sheffield has only ever broadcast CE using girls and men.

                              VCC
                              Possible because the girls normally sing there on a Wednesday.

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