CE Chapel of Magdalen College, Oxford June 20th 2012

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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
    • 12978

    CE Chapel of Magdalen College, Oxford June 20th 2012

    CE Chapel of Magdalen College, Oxford


    Order of Service:


    Introit: Jesu, grant me this I pray (Christopher Robinson)
    Responses: Radcliffe
    Office Hymn: The duteous day now closeth (Innsbruck)
    Psalm: 104 (Walford Davies, Parratt)
    First Lesson: Isaiah 30 :15-22
    Canticles: Howells in B minor
    Second Lesson: Matthew 5: 13-24
    Anthem: Lo, the full, final sacrifice (Finzi)
    Final Hymn: All creatures of our God and King (Lasst uns erfreuen)


    Organ Voluntary: Rhapsody on a Ground (Statham)



    Benjamin Giddens (Sub Organist)
    Daniel Hyde (Informator Choristarum)
  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    #2
    I'm really looking forward to this. Now I wonder if Magdalen have been nurturing a closet girls' choir just to confuse the punters?

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 12978

      #3
      Please note that it looks as if this CE has been extended until 4.45. I would surmise it is to accommodate the substantial Finzi anthem?

      Die Walkure is scheduled for 4.45 and nothing else is billed on the schedule between the usual CE finish time of 4.30 and 4.45.

      I've taken the liberty of posting this for those who set recorders in advance.

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      • Magnificat

        #4
        That's a change then. If there is an over-run they usually, these days, cut out a psalm or hymn,years ago it would have been the organ voluntary!

        VCC

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30329

          #5
          Originally posted by DracoM View Post
          Please note that it looks as if this CE has been extended until 4.45. I would surmise it is to accommodate the substantial Finzi anthem?

          Die Walkure is scheduled for 4.45 and nothing else is billed on the schedule between the usual CE finish time of 4.30 and 4.45.

          I've taken the liberty of posting this for those who set recorders in advance.
          Alternatively, they might just resort to a fill as the schedule for the evening is unusual.

          While we're waiting - any information on the history of the title Informator choristarum at Magdalen? The Christ Church website (fourth line from the top) refers to the Informator choristorum at Cardinal College.

          Add: Chorista is a medieval Latin formation. There are several ecclesiastic terms (mainly, I think from Greek sources, e.g. baptista, propheta) which are masculine nouns of the first (so-called feminine) declension ending in -a rather than second declension in -us. The form 'choristorum' looks like an attempt to 'correct' the form, given that all choristers were boys.
          Last edited by french frank; 19-06-12, 23:43.
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          • DracoM
            Host
            • Mar 2007
            • 12978

            #6
            Reminder that this CE is tomorrow [Wed] @ 3.30 preceding Die Walkure

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            • Simon Biazeck

              #7
              This one’s a keeper! An absolute delight from beginning to end, and that uninterrupted… almost – Halleluja! The choir’s sweet, rich and intense sound perfectly matched to the repertoire with impeccable balance, tuning, diction and ensemble. What a balm to hear that vintage Howells and Finzi in this glorious sunshine! It’s years since I heard the Statham Rhapsody on a Ground – a fine choice for the Mander organ.

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 12978

                #8
                Howells was neat and efficient, first real test in the service of the trebs higher register.

                The Finzi is a big and not especially easy sing, and what was fascinating was to hear the choir, particularly the treble line, gaining in confidence, expressiveness and excitement as it went on. It's a fine piece. Two or three bold and skilled treble leaders, altos and tenors collectively particularly good, and some quality organ support too. It's a pretty testing thing to do live, so many thanks to all.

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #9
                  I missed this and saw the piece Rhapsody on a Ground by a chap called Statham?
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • Simon Biazeck

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    I missed this and saw the piece Rhapsody on a Ground by a chap called Statham?
                    Yes, Heathcote Statham - a fine piece. Did you know him?

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                    • Magnificat

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                      I'm really looking forward to this. Now I wonder if Magdalen have been nurturing a closet girls' choir just to confuse the punters?
                      ardcarp

                      Apropos recent discussions elsewhere. If I had not known it was boys on the top line I would have enjoyed the singing just as much but I would not have had the added and immediate enjoyment of recognising Daniel Hyde's developing skill as a trainer of boys voices. A talent to be watched I think.

                      Last week we had Byrd in the vastness of York Minster this week Howells in Magdalen's small chapel a place ideally suited to something from the Golden Age. It will be great to hear the choir singing some of this in future under Mr Hyde's assured direction.

                      VCC

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                      • DracoM
                        Host
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 12978

                        #12
                        I think VCC has an interesting point here: horses and courses.

                        Byrd in York, Howells in Oxford. Given the acoustics / spaces etc in each, seems a bit counter-intuitive! Except that if the policy of Howells only in big spaces, and Byrd in smaller intimate spaces were to become rampant, we'd hear less of both! What is fascinating is how it gives us a chance to hear 'big' music like Howells in a more analytic even clinical space, and the smaller scale but satisfyingly complex Byrd in a big mixing pot.

                        What sort of bases / factors do DoMs have to / choose to take into account when selecting their repertoire? OK, liturgical / specific seasonal factors of course, but in the routine, everyday of a foundation, what prompts them in particular directions?

                        I know of one distinguished DoM who has over this year made it a policy to sing more Bach, Gibbons and Purcell motets than usual. He says that this year he knew he had tour commitments that indicated that kind of repertoire, but also, looking at the choir potential, he knew in advance that there were three or so lads who had solo potential, particularly good back rows as well, all of whom he wanted to give the chance to sing verse anthems with their solo / small group ensemble opportunities.

                        Lest it be misunderstood [ for one reason or another !], I am in no way criticising either Robert Sharpe at York nor Daniel Hyde at MCO for their choice. Just seemed an interesting topic to have emerged out of the last two weeks' CEs.

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                        • ardcarp
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11102

                          #13
                          I got back late last night, having driven for 7 hours, crept into bed without disturbing a warm and gently snoring Mrs Ardcarp, shoved on the 'cans', fired up the i-player and had a most pleasing evensong experience courtesy of Magdalen. I can't express how much I enjoyed it. It was good, uncomplicated singing, and I have to say that I do find a 'choral scholar' back row very satisfactory...even if it lacks solo experience. MCO's altos were especially fine I thouht, fine in the sense that they were 'there' but not obtrusive.

                          The organ may not be what one expects for Finzi or Howells, but it was most sensitively played. And the chapel's acoustic, whilst not cavernous is not too dry either. Howells in B minor is probably the most sensible Howells for that set-up. And LTFFS was done with more clarity and careful preparation than one often hears. I would like more to have been made of the scruumy final Amen. It ended a longish piece in a slightly peremptory fashion, I thought, but I'm splitting hairs.

                          It's a while since I roamed Oxford popping into MCO and NCO, The contrast between them then was stark. MCO was ultra smart and drilled but sang, how shall I say, with a sense of duty. Whilst NCO was a bit shambolic [is that how you spell it?] but exuded musicality and verve. I felt a definite sense of musicality and verve coming over the aether in the wee small hours this morning.

                          Thanks, Magdalen.
                          Last edited by ardcarp; 23-06-12, 16:08.

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                          • Roger Judd
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 234

                            #14
                            It was indeed, IMO, a beautifully sung service, and every aspect clearly prepared with much care - I felt drawn into the act of worship being offered in the Chapel that afternoon in a way that doesn't always happen. The music was chosen with an equal amount of thought too, from Christopher Robinson's characterful little introit (dedicated to the memory of my distinguished predecessor at Windsor, John Porter), through Howells in B minor, one of my favourites among his output, to the glorious Finzi, whose performance and direction was of the highest quality.

                            Ben Giddens (another member of the ex-Windsor organ-loft fraternity!) partnered the choir with great sensitivity, and ear for colour, on the somewhat modest instrument in the chapel. I was especially pleased to hear the voluntary, which by strange coincidence I'm playing in recitals shortly, but have never heard anyone else play previously - it is a fine piece.

                            Thank you, Magdalen.
                            RJ

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                            • Simon Biazeck

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Roger Judd View Post
                              It was indeed, IMO, a beautifully sung service, and every aspect clearly prepared with much care - I felt drawn into the act of worship being offered in the Chapel that afternoon in a way that doesn't always happen.
                              I agree completely - well said!

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