I was glad

[mercia]

please, what is the latin for Charles?
I'm worried [not seriously] about how the "Vivats" will scan at the next coronation.

[amateur51]

please, what is the latin for Charles?
I'm worried about how the "Vivats" will scan at the next coronation.

[Pabmusic]

please, what is the latin for Charles?
I'm worried about how the "Vivats" will scan at the next coronation.

Carolus - but that might not be his monarchical name. I seem to recall his saying some years back that he'll be George VII. I'd avoid King Carol, if it were me - Roy Orbison playing at the coronation? Orbison & Sceptre?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I'm worried about how the "Vivats" will scan at the next coronation.

Gulielmus "fits", doesn't it?

[mercia]

Gulielmus "fits", doesn't it?

could do

thing is, Regina Elisabetha needs eight notes
Rex Carolus only needs four

[Chris Watson]

It was written for a George, wasn't it? So presumably if he goes for that name, as has been suggested several times that he might, the Abbey will just blow the dust off the old copies. Let's hope, however, that it's not for a while.....

[mercia]

Let's hope, however, that it's not for a while.....

quite

[ardcarp]

Many Latin scholars will no doubt ride to the rescue, but my dog-Latin would render it as CAROLINUS which would match ELIZABETHA. I'm more worried about the 'Rex', but it must have been done.

[Pabmusic]

It was written for a George, wasn't it? So presumably if he goes for that name, as has been suggested several times that he might, the Abbey will just blow the dust off the old copies. Let's hope, however, that it's not for a while.....

It was actually written for Edward VII in 1902, so I suppose Edwardus was sung.

[Pabmusic]

Many Latin scholars will no doubt ride to the rescue, but my dog-Latin would render it as CAROLINUS which would match ELIZABETHA. I'm more worried about the 'Rex', but it must have been done.

This may help, from a definition of Charles:

"French, Welsh, and English: from the French form of the Germanic personal name Carl ‘man’ (which was Latinized as Carolus). In France the personal name was popular from an early date, due to the fame of the Emperor Charlemagne (?742–814; Latin name Carolus Magnus, i.e. Charles the Great). The Old French form Charles was briefly introduced to England by the Normans, but was rare during the main period of surname formation. It was introduced more successfully to Scotland in the 16th century by the Stuarts, who had strong ties with France, and was brought by them to England in the 17th century. Its frequency as a Welsh surname is attributable to the late date of Welsh surname formation. Old English Ceorl ‘peasant’ is also found as a byname, but the resulting Middle English form, Charl, with a patronymic in -s, if it existed at all, would have been absorbed by the French form introduced by the Normans. Compare Carl. English variants pronounced with initial k- for the most part reflect the cognate Old Norse personal name Karl, Karli."

[ardcarp]

Thanks! I seem to recall the word 'Carolingian' being used to describe certain 'Charles' dynasties. By the way, I have a son-in-law called and spelled Charl...so it exists.

[Roehre]

Many Latin scholars will no doubt ride to the rescue, but my dog-Latin would render it as CAROLINUS which would match ELIZABETHA. I'm more worried about the 'Rex', but it must have been done.

Carolus = charles; Carolinus = little charles

[Roehre]

Compare Carl. English variants pronounced with initial k- for the most part reflect the cognate Old Norse personal name Karl, Karli."

As it is/they are in germanic languages: Karl (German), Karel (Dutch) and even slavonic: Karol (Polish).

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

At least Prince Charles/King George VII will use this fine music, and not have Alfie Boe dumbing down as he did 5 days ago.

[Pabmusic]

As it is/they are in germanic languages: Karl (German), Karel (Dutch) and even slavonic: Karol (Polish).

Quite right. Actually, it's odd that Old English (Anglo-Saxon) didn't use k at all - King and Queen (for instance) were cyning and cwen. It was the Normans who brought over the k and qu.