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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
    • 12995

    #76
    They don't - or shouldn't. They may have suspicions based on past experience, but it is their job to activate assessments to discover if or not.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
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      #77
      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
      OK, but can autism etc be a new thread?
      It is becoming a little confusing.

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      • DracoM
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        • Mar 2007
        • 12995

        #78
        The hassle is that the various threads are now so intertwined that it's difficult to sort them. Would one of you like to start a new thread 'The Problems of Autism and Aspergers in any context'? or something similar?

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
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          #79
          Returning to the original topic (?), I watched the final on Songs of Praise, and thought St George's Choir fully deserved first place. I was rather sad to see the disappointed faces of the Llanelli Choir, but there could be only one winner.

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          • Mary Chambers
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1963

            #80
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Returning to the original topic (?), I watched the final on Songs of Praise, and thought St George's Choir fully deserved first place. I was rather sad to see the disappointed faces of the Llanelli Choir, but there could be only one winner.
            They were both very good, I thought. It wasn't as obvious to me which of those two would win as it was that Heath Mount would win the junior section.

            I can't believe that Aled Jones really thinks that Russell Watson is a 'world class tenor'. He (Watson) doesn't have a world class vocabulary either. Not a good idea to throw words like 'sublime' and 'genius' around so casually.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20576

              #81
              Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
              I can't believe that Aled Jones really thinks that Russell Watson is a 'world class tenor'.
              I think he was just being polite. But it still grated, hearing a nice chap like Aled, telling a "lie".

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              • Mary Chambers
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                • Nov 2010
                • 1963

                #82
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                I think he was just being polite.
                There was no need for him to be quite as polite as that!

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                  There was no need for him to be quite as polite as that!

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                  • ardcarp
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11102

                    #84
                    Mary wrote:

                    They were both very good, I thought. It wasn't as obvious to me which of those two would win
                    I couldn't agree more; and it just shows how infuriating competitions are. How do you judge between a well prepared and presented arrangement from a small but accomplished SATB choir with a simpler piece sung with great verve and commitment (and a lovely homogenous sound) by a large upper-voice-only choir?

                    What a ghastly travesty of Nessum Dorma in the interval...and where was the orchestra hidden away?

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                    • DracoM
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12995

                      #85
                      Oh, ardcarp, you shouldn't have to. How on earth did the BBC have the barefaced..................no, no......be still my raging heart!
                      With those three judges??
                      Good Grief.

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                      • AscribeUntoTheLad

                        #86
                        And 'genii' isn't even the correct plural.

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                        • Beef Oven

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                          They were both very good, I thought. It wasn't as obvious to me which of those two would win as it was that Heath Mount would win the junior section.

                          I can't believe that Aled Jones really thinks that Russell Watson is a 'world class tenor'. He (Watson) doesn't have a world class vocabulary either. Not a good idea to throw words like 'sublime' and 'genius' around so casually.
                          Russell Watson is a 'world class tenor' - so is Andrea Bocelli.

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                          • jean
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7100

                            #88
                            Originally posted by AscribeUntoTheLad View Post
                            And 'genii' isn't even the correct plural.
                            It can be - but geniuses is just as good.

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                            • french frank
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30532

                              #89
                              Originally posted by jean View Post
                              geniuses is just as good.
                              But always with a slightly different meaning? OED says of 'genius' as describing a highly gifted individual: 'Now only geniuses in pl.', and of the quality distinguishing a genius ('Native intellectual power of an exalted type, such as is attributed to those who are esteemed greatest in any department of art, speculation, or practice; instinctive and extraordinary capacity for imaginative creation, original thought, invention, or discovery. Often contrasted with talent'): 'Only in sing.'.

                              However, the OED makes no mention at all of 'genius' in the current, less exalted sense. Apple stores have a Genius Bar: 'home to our resident Geniuses', referring to their technical support people.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20576

                                #90
                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                Apple stores have a Genius Bar: 'home to our resident Geniuses', referring to their technical support people.
                                No don't drag Apple into it. They can't spell at all. I'm not referring to the American spellings which are sort of "correct" over there. It's their abbreviation of "synchronising" to "syncing". Whenever a "c" is followed by "e" or "i", the pronunciation is "ss", not "k" - even in the United States of America.
                                Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 30-04-12, 15:32. Reason: Lots of spelling mistakes

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