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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    #16
    I'm just adding my support to the anti-league table sentiments expressed by most people. Specifically, where choirs are concerned, I find some choirs suited to certain repertory. But in general I find Radio 3's efforts to do a top 10 quite pathetic....you can almost hear presenters with gravitas gritting their teeth as they go through the motions.

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 12986

      #17
      You notice that they seem to be the '20 Greatest Choirs' that the record industry judges to be 'greatest'? On sales perhaps?

      'Erm....musical skills?'
      'Whadya mean? You mean they also sing? The only music I know is cash registers, mate'

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20572

        #18
        The next thing will be the 20 best choirs who can't stand still

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        • Simon

          #19
          Originally posted by DracoM View Post
          'Whadya mean? You mean they also sing? The only music I know is cash registers, mate'
          LOL. Nice one Dracs!

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          • ardcarp
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #20
            Choirs from the Baltic states, Scandinavia, central Europe, Germany, Bulgaria etc frequently do well and are much admired for their choral technique and repertoire
            Yes, they have a fantastic tradition...and some Byulgarians produce their voices rather differently which I find fascinating.
            The tradition, I suspect, relies on a lot of rehearsing (the French word 'repetition' seems appropriate...though vocally, they don't seem to do enough of it!) whereas in the UK there are a lot of expert singers who can make a very good fist of anything that is chucked in front of them. Another feature of East/North European choirs is that the men sing with a more straight and un-coloured voice. This is very good for blending.


            I'm off to Norway for Christmas (airports permitting..English airports, that is!) and look forward to hearing the amazing Nidaros Jentekor, at Trodheim Cathedral.

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            • EnemyoftheStoat
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1135

              #21
              Starter for 10 - Which choirs are glaring omissions?
              They will be the ones whose recording companies don't provide Gramophone with substantial advertising revenue, no?

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30455

                #22
                Originally posted by decantor View Post
                Presumably The Gramophone made it clear that this was a bit of seasonal fun
                Alas, so much of this kind of thing is excused as being 'just a bit of fun'. So that's all right then.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Oldcrofter
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 226

                  #23
                  Yes, the Nidaros Cathedral Girls' Choir - I'm sure it will be a wonderful concert - on the 28th I think. Their cathedral robes are a sort of dull bluish-green - but they do look spectacular in their Norwegian folk dress - a riot of colour and amazing embroidery. I do hope they'll be performing in their folk costume, Ardcarp.

                  You may even go to Hell when in Trondheim - it's only just up the road !

                  Gledelig Jul !

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                  • Oldcrofter
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 226

                    #24
                    Here are the girls in their Norwegian folk costumes:

                    Konkurranseprogrammet som ga Nidarosdomens Jentekor, under ledelse av Anita Brevik, 3. pris i "The Fleischmann International Trophy Competition" i Cork mai 2...


                    Don't know what the first piece is. I think the next piece (from about 2.30) might be "Søk Herren" (Seek the Lord) by Norwegian composer Knut Nystedt ?

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                    • Oldcrofter
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 226

                      #25
                      i.e Seek ye the Lord while he may be found ...

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                      • amateur51

                        #26
                        Interesting, given the name of the thread's originator, that no-one has mentioned a Welsh Male-voice Choir.

                        Oh, not THAT sort of choir?

                        As you were.

                        Give me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FFax...eature=related any day.

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                        • Oldcrofter
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 226

                          #27
                          Here's a great choir with a great anthem, specially for The Prodigal Son (Y Mab Afradlon) and Amateur51:

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                          • amateur51

                            #28
                            Splendid stuff, Oldcrofter - many thanks!

                            For different reasons, I've always been very fond of this version ...

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                            • Oldcrofter
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 226

                              #29
                              One of my "great" male choirs is this one, Orphei Drängar from the old university city of Uppsala, Sweden. This song, Kristallen den fina, is one that's very dear to all Swedish hearts:

                              "Kristallen den fina" (Like Crystal that's gleaming) - swedish folk song performed by male choir Orphei Drängar. The intro is a Herding call played on cow ho...


                              There are many songs which everyone in Sweden associates with student male voice choirs, often ones which greet the spring or midsummer. This is one example, Glad såsom fågeln (Happy as the bird in the morning):

                              Male chorus Orphei Drängar sings traditional Swedish spring song "Glad såsom fågeln" at their spring concert in April 2008 in Konserthuset in Stockholm. Cond...


                              From my own alma mater Lund University in the south-west of Sweden, the Lund Male Student Choir sing a song celebrating the flight of Winter and the welcome arrival of Spring: Vintern rasat ut:

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                              I can't think of many young male choirs in this country except those associated with Oxbridge colleges, cathedrals etc., most of whose repertoire is ecclesiatical. Maybe message boarders know of some good British young male choirs. There are plenty of good male voice choirs in the UK, but they are predominantly senior citizens.
                              Last edited by Oldcrofter; 21-12-10, 23:53.

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                              • Y Mab Afradlon
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 153

                                #30
                                Sweden has a wonderful tradition of singing, BBC Wales made a documentery about a day life in the Sweden Choral Educational system. I participated in it and got to know such fine pieces as Sven David Sandström's En ny himmel och en ny jord
                                International Orange Chorale sings "En ny himmel och en ny jord" by noted Swedish composer Sven-David Sandström (b.1942) during their Spring 2008 concert at ...

                                Sandström/Purcell: Hear my prayer, O Lord
                                Sven-David Sandström after Henry Purcell, Hear my prayer oh LordEric Ericson Chamber Choir.

                                Otto Olsson's Ave Maris Stella
                                International Orange Chorale sings the wonderful motet "Ave Maris Stella" from Six Latin Hymns, op. 40 by great Swedish organist and composer Otto Olsson (18...


                                It also has a rich tradition of folk songs which have been cleverly arranged for choirs
                                David Wikander's Kung Liljekonvaljestunning
                                International Orange Chorale sings Swedish composer David Wikander's (1884-1955) lovely setting of Gustaf Froeding's poem, Kung Liljekonvalje at their Spring...

                                and everyone's favourite encore Alfven's Och jungfrun hon gar i ringen
                                International Orange Chorale sings Swedish composer Hugo Alfven's (1872-1960) delightful arrangement of the folksong "Och jungfrun hon gar i ringen" during t...


                                Enjoy these ...... and thank you Old Crofter Diolch yn fawr
                                Last edited by Y Mab Afradlon; 21-12-10, 23:28.

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